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Old 01-12-2022, 02:07 PM   #661
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E. Kane's belongs in the KHL at best.

No GM should be looking at signing him. This is a player that has a lot of baggage and has clearly violated team and NHL rules as well as breaking the law. By even lining up to sign him days after he was waived is a league embarrassment.

I think NHL officials will tie him up so long he doesn't play in the league at all this year. The NHL will be protecting it's already broken image lately.

San Jose could have terminated his contract as result of the bankruptcy but they did not. It's not that San Jose did not give him opportunities I think they just finally had enough and do you blame them really? Yes this guy is a great talent on ice but off ice..
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The NHL is like your drivers Lic. It's not a right to have it or be in it, it's a privilege.

San Jose also had a strong leadership team as well as a veteran team over past years in Marleau, Thornton, Pavelski, Burns and none of these guys could reign in Kane. Does Edmonton think Connor can reign him in???

This guy has also played for some decent coaches as well and nothing...
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Old 01-12-2022, 03:51 PM   #662
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The only thing Kane is guilty of is the Covid-related issues, which is definitely problematic. It's needlessly stupid and he needs to get his #### together.

However, the rest of the things that people are bagging on E. Kane about like gambling, false claims from his vindictive and crazy ex-wife, etc., is being overblown. Lets look at some examples:
  • Jagr is a notorious gambler and womanizer with significant debts, but he never received nearly the same media coverage about it that E. Kane does.
  • Patrick Kane has physically and sexually assaulted numerous people, which is swept under the rug.
  • Tony Deangelo is a Trump-ist with a history of racism that dates back to his junior days, but there has been minimal media coverage on him besides the NYR scuffle.
  • Jeff Carter was kicked off of Philly for partying and is rumored to have slept with his teammate's wife, but there was minimal media coverage on that as well
Besides the Covid-issues, E. Kane is being vilified for acting no different than the rest of the hockey fraternity (i.e. acting like a typical dumb jock/pro athlete), but like many of his peers (e.g. Emery, Ho-Sang, Subban, A. Carter, etc.) there's a media target on his back because he's "different". It's ridiculous


I am not absolving Kane of his stupidity, but the conditions on the Flames are present to make acquiring him a success for both parties and Treliving is an idiot if he doesn't pursue it
I believe you may have confused the two Kanes. It’s Evander with the long list of assault and sexual assault claims against him.

August, 2013 - Lev Makievsky alleges that Kane assaulted him causing a concussion and physical disability. Kane would say that Makievsky instigated the fight.

December, 2015 - Rachel Kuechle alleges that Kane violently assaulted her after inviting her back to his place under false pretext of a party. She alleges the assault, also sexual in nature, caused her several lacerations requiring multiple surgeries and blood transfusions.

June, 2016 - Three separate woman all claim that Kane physically assaulted them in a bar. One said he had grabbed her neck and told her she was going with him now. Another said he grabbed her by the neck in the parking lot, made derogatory comments to her and tried to push her into his car. A third said she was grabbed by the arm and pulled by Kane. A bouncer, who Kane also engaged in physically, would support the claims. Kane would accept a plea deal that would have the charges dismissed if he stayed out of legal trouble for six months.

June, 2016 - Another one of his exes claimed through Instagram (and not through official channels like the others) that Kane was physically and verbally abusive. Calling him an "extremely abusive #######".

March, 2019 - Anna Kane, shortly after complications with the birth of their child, alleges that Kane forced her to perform oral sex on him by grabbing her hair. A couple days later, and still not healed, Kane allegedly raped her according to the divorce documents.
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Old 01-12-2022, 03:58 PM   #663
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Also acting like there was minimal media coverage around “dry island” is hilarious and not sure what you want to do with the Hartnell rumour which was actually addressed by the team (which threatened legal action) after it got legs from media. Both parties deny it. This isn’t Shanahan.

And it’s absolutely ridiculous that either of P. Kane’s alleged incidents are considered to be swept under the rug given the absolutely media circus around both.

Seems like Kane’s struggles have less to do with his race and more to do with the fact that even after having 7 separate people claim assault or worse through channels that would open themselves up to perjury if proven untruthful, he still decided to break more laws.

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Old 01-12-2022, 04:16 PM   #664
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I believe you may have confused the two Kanes. It’s Evander with the long list of assault and sexual assault claims against him.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...105-story.html

https://www.sportscasting.com/stanle...over-20-cents/
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Old 01-12-2022, 04:25 PM   #665
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I always wondered why there never was an Air Bud movie about hockey.

They could've called it "Rovertime."
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Hockey is expensive enough to play with only two non-canine-specific skates...

4 skates and then the stick...I suppose goals can go in off your face...
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Old 01-12-2022, 04:29 PM   #667
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I always wondered why there never was an Air Bud movie about hockey.

They could've called it "Rovertime."

Rovertime...Ha! That is solid gold, my friend.


On topic: I think the longer Kane goes unsigned, and the fewer games the Flames would have to tolerate him if the worst came to pass, the more I want the Flames to sign him. If there is a run to be had, especially if Gaudreau and/or Tkachuk don't re-sign, the Flames need to go for it now, and they need all the scoring they can get.
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Old 01-12-2022, 04:33 PM   #668
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Don't compare the 2 .....not even remotely close .

Kanes behavior in ALL instances makes me wonder how he's not already behind bars or dead.
Right, because attacking a player from behind and breaking his neck is not remotely close. Funny how when that happened and he was a Canuck everybody in this board was calling him a criminal and that he should be banned from hockey forever but he takes a tour of duty with the Flames and all the sudden he wasn't a bad guy at all.
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Right, because attacking a player from behind and breaking his neck is not remotely close. Funny how when that happened and he was a Canuck everybody in this board was calling him a criminal and that he should be banned from hockey forever but he takes a tour of duty with the Flames and all the sudden he wasn't a bad guy at all.
I have always hated that the Flames signed that sack of ####.

It is a black mark on the organization.

Bertuzzi should have been out of the game after this cowardly attack.
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I hated the signing when it happened, felt dirty being happy every time he scored, and was glad they didn't re-sign him but I don't recall hearing anything that Bertuzzi wasn't liked in the dressing room.

That's where him and Kane differ. Kane has the ability to cause tension in a dressing room even if he might not be aware of it. People can say he's going to be on his best behavior but we don't know if he really will. You can say they can just get rid of him by sending him to the minors but I would rather they just not take the chance.
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Old 01-12-2022, 05:25 PM   #671
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Probably a better example of a "Problem Child" for the Flames would've been Michael Ferland, who dealt with a number of off-ice incidents and addictions.

He finally got it sorted out, to his credit.

Evander Kane is unrepentant and a recidivist whom I'm not sure can reform himself. Especially between now and June.
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Yes, so the extremely well documented cab driver incident and the international news rape allegation that even the prosecutor casted doubts on after the woman and her mother’s stories came crashing down.

Neither swept under the rug unlike E. Kane’s who’s at least 8 alleged assaults (or worse) didn’t garner a tenth of the media attention of P. Kane’s.

Again he seems to have the facts confused.
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Right, because attacking a player from behind and breaking his neck is not remotely close. Funny how when that happened and he was a Canuck everybody in this board was calling him a criminal and that he should be banned from hockey forever but he takes a tour of duty with the Flames and all the sudden he wasn't a bad guy at all.
Oh FFS!!! I forgot this is CP. Where you are always
Right !!!
Jesus tappdancing Christ give me a break .
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I always wondered why there never was an Air Bud movie about hockey.

They could've called it "Rovertime."
Because it would pale in comparison to MVP: Most Valuable Primate

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Probably a better example of a "Problem Child" for the Flames would've been Michael Ferland, who dealt with a number of off-ice incidents and addictions.

He finally got it sorted out, to his credit.

Evander Kane is unrepentant and a recidivist whom I'm not sure can reform himself. Especially between now and June.

It bums me out that Ferland busted his ass to overcome his addictions and get his career on track only to have it ruined by concussions. At least he got one decent contract before he had to quit.
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Craig MacTavish murdered someone and was able to find a home with a team, the NHL has always looked the other way when it comes up players that can help teams.
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Craig MacTavish murdered someone and was able to find a home with a team, the NHL has always looked the other way when it comes up players that can help teams.
Well, as much as I hate defending an Oiler, (a) he didn’t murder anyone; (b) he went to jail and did his time; (c) he met with and reconciled with the victim’s family; and (d) he did a ton of anti-drunk driving community service. The league didn’t look the other way, either.
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Well, as much as I hate defending an Oiler, (a) he didn’t murder anyone; (b) he went to jail and did his time; (c) he met with and reconciled with the victim’s family; and (d) he did a ton of anti-drunk driving community service. The league didn’t look the other way, either.
Vehicular homicide is murder
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My favourite example of the league looking the other way was when Rick Tocchet and Janet Gretzky took the fall for Wayne.
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Vehicular homicide is murder
No, it’s not. Turn in your law degree.
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