10-09-2020, 01:39 PM
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#661
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
Maybe it’s a Bishop situation and ownership isn’t answering their phone to sign off on the deal.
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Maybe Treliving doesn't know he has to dial 011 first.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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10-09-2020, 01:39 PM
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#662
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by btimbit
One guy that I bet most of us haven't heard of before today sends out a tweet and now, out of nowhere, people are panicking like we're about to give Markstrom Bobrovsky/Price money despite there being zero rumours of any such thing happening
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I don't think its panicking - but the most recent information, from a legitimate member of the Vancouver press who covers hockey provided a tweet indicating its going to be a monster contract. Thats reason to believe the numbers everyone was initially throwing around are too low. Especially when Matt Murray got what he got this morning and wasn't even close to Markstrom caliber.
Given that fact pattern, IF we are looking at the $8- $9M range, WALK AWAY.
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10-09-2020, 01:39 PM
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#663
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
...did Steinberg just casually say the talks have backed off?
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Yeah, but it sounded like it was a thought on what the holdup might be, not a report. It is nearly 10 pm in Sweden, so I think there is a good chance this drags on until tomorrow.
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10-09-2020, 01:39 PM
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#664
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Truculent!
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Drance does like to troll... haha...
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Originally Posted by Poe969
It's the Law of E=NG. If there was an Edmonton on Mars, it would stink like Uranus.
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10-09-2020, 01:39 PM
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#665
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: The real "Cowtown"
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I feel like I haven't been breathing properly for a few hours now.
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10-09-2020, 01:40 PM
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#666
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Medicine Hat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Has Markstrom ever won, or been nominated for, the Vezina? Or any other award?
Maybe let's not go nuts. The guy is a career decent starter with 1.5 very good (not MVP calibre) seasons, one being a contract year. He isn't prime Brodeur.
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Was 4th in Vezina voting this year.
So literally the 4th best goalie in the league.
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10-09-2020, 01:40 PM
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#667
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Lifetime Suspension
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Turris interview:
"Hey Kyle, Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl amirite? Hyuhyuhyuhhh"
Just a broken record from these idiots.
Sorry off topic. I just refuse to leave this thread due to its imminent nature.
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10-09-2020, 01:40 PM
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#668
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I’m not going to be surprised if he gets up there. This is free agency, the top end won’t feel the squeeze.
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If he gets that $$$ it is with a bottom feeder looking to get above the cap floor. Which I don't think is what he wants at this point in his career.
I think his AAV will be under Markstrom's.
Pietrangelo is getting big money, though.
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10-09-2020, 01:40 PM
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#669
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First Line Centre
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Is Greiss still available? I would rather have greiss at $2M less than Markstrom if thats what the difference ends up being
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10-09-2020, 01:41 PM
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#670
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Fwiw Markstrom just barely missed out on being a Vezina finalist this year
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10-09-2020, 01:41 PM
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#671
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
That's an indictment of advanced stats, not of Markstrom
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I don't even know if I'd say that. Elliott was a damn good tandem goalie that was never a legit #1. Some combination of the starer workload, leaving the Blues' system, and just getting older, contributed to his numbers falling off.
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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10-09-2020, 01:41 PM
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#672
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
If it's 6x7 or 6x6, I hate it.
I just can't commit to goaltenders. Markstrom has been very good the last 2 years, but that's really all he has in his career.
Goalies are voodoo. Very rarely do you find somebody young and consistent like Vasilevsky. Even Price, who many consider to be the best in the league, varies wildly from season to season.
If I was a GM, this is not a bet I'd be willing to make. Markstrom could be great next season, he could be great for all six or seven years, but he could also just fall back to earth. And the samples we have available say either is likely to happen.
I'd save my money here and spend elsewhere.
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The biggest knock Tre has had to listen to was no bonafide #1 no way on earth he was letting this bus pass by.
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10-09-2020, 01:41 PM
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#673
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by codynw
Other than the 16 wins, .922SV% and 2.16GAA in the 2018 playoffs.
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Yeah, 3 bad regular seasons and two bad playoffs in a row.
He wasn't even the starter game one in the 2018 playoffs but found his game again for a couple months
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10-09-2020, 01:41 PM
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#674
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
Turris interview:
"Hey Kyle, Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl amirite? Hyuhyuhyuhhh"
Just a broken record from idiots.
Sorry off topic kind of. I just refuse to leave this thread due to its imminent nature.
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You could almost hear Burke roll his eyes over the radio
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10-09-2020, 01:41 PM
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#675
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Franchise Player
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If he’s waiting for Treliving to blink and give him a seventh year, he might be waiting awhile:
Treliving has a bit of leverage if the Oilers are out as nobody else can give him $6Mx6, let alone $6Mx7...
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10-09-2020, 01:42 PM
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#676
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Has Markstrom ever won, or been nominated for, the Vezina? Or any other award?
Maybe let's not go nuts. The guy is a career decent starter with 1.5 very good (not MVP calibre) seasons, one being a contract year. He isn't prime Brodeur.
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If the eastern conference stayed up and watched.
He was the MVP of his team.
He was 4th in vezina voting this year.
And all of this is not fact checked just out of my ass sorry
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10-09-2020, 01:43 PM
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#677
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by Leondros
I don't think its panicking - but the most recent information, from a legitimate member of the Vancouver press who covers hockey provided a tweet indicating its going to be a monster contract. Thats reason to believe the numbers everyone was initially throwing around are too low. Especially when Matt Murray got what he got this morning and wasn't even close to Markstrom caliber.
Given that fact pattern, IF we are looking at the $8- $9M range, WALK AWAY.
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I still think that's panicking. Nobody has reported any rumours of anything in that price range, we just have one reporter from Vancouver using throwing out the term 'monster'
I'll take Bob McKenzie's rumours over Drance's
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10-09-2020, 01:44 PM
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#678
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Has Markstrom ever won, or been nominated for, the Vezina? Or any other award?
Maybe let's not go nuts. The guy is a career decent starter with 1.5 very good (not MVP calibre) seasons, one being a contract year. He isn't prime Brodeur.
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There’s no nominations, as you know. There’s not even “finalists” in the true sense, they just call the top 3 vote getters in every candidate that. He finished 4th in voting this year (albeit by a pretty big margin).
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10-09-2020, 01:44 PM
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#679
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Jesus Christ guys, we're talking about one of the best goalies in the league here, not Brian Elliott.
If he ends up being one of the highest paid guys on the team, well, he should be
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totally. Markstrom's save percentage of .918 is only 10 basis points worse than Talbot's .919.
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10-09-2020, 01:45 PM
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#680
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Fwiw Markstrom just barely missed out on being a Vezina finalist this year
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And per the fancy stat goalie stuff should have been at least 3rd if not 2nd
The only concern I'd have for the flames is ian clark was such a benefit to him, but it's a real small concern because hes experienced and had marky for a long time, and the improvements have been consistent year to year
Say he signs a 6 year deal, goalies are somewhat voodoo so it's tough to predict
But I'd say he would put in
1 below average year
1 slightly above average
2 top 10 years
2 top 5 years
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