Calgarypuck Mafia Game Thread

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by devo22

whoops, got that wrong - agulati had 4 votes, not 5. So Scorn and Bonded were tied. Still no reason for Scorn to kill his buddy in that instance - a tie would have resulted in no lynch.

I have trouble seeing how any of those that voted Bonded on Day 1 are Oilers. With the vote so close, it doesn't really make sense for any of them to be voting Bonded. Voting to force a tie would have definitely raised some red flags though. That's the only way I can see making any sense but even that is a stretch in my eyes.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by devo22

whoops, got that wrong - agulati had 4 votes, not 5. So Scorn and Bonded were tied. Still no reason for Scorn to kill his buddy in that instance - a tie would have resulted in no lynch.

And likely an OBVIOUS scum nod.

Much more strategic to vote Bonded there...

[devo22]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

And likely an OBVIOUS scum nod.

Much more strategic to vote Bonded there...

killing off Oilers buddy #1 and painting a big target on Oilers buddy #2 ... that doesn't seem very strategic to me.

[Scornfire]

Okay EoJ, care to amend ANY of that before I respond to it all (Again)?

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by devo22

killing off Oilers buddy #1 and painting a big target on Oilers buddy #2 ... that doesn't seem very strategic to me.

Yes, maybe not.

Consider that he's basically boxed in and basically forced to vote for for bonded. Then day 2 he initially comes after me... making a sloppy mistake counting.

Then later he makes a post about GGG (notably after consensus is already bulding) but never votes on it. Questionable. He spends most of the rest of the time actually defending GGG or questioning peoples votes for GGG. Very contradictory behavior.

[Scornfire]

Wrong Devo, you guys keep quoting the Mrkajz miscount for some reason

When I voted it was 5 Agulati, 5 Bonded and 4 me. And now ####ing EoJ reinforces that misquote AGAIN after being corrected in post #565/566 and ADMITTING he was wrong in post #567, for real? If you're a Flames fan I'm genuinely beside myself

[Scornfire]

Am I in groundhog day with this ####?

[Scornfire]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

I was never at 5? Unless I'm terrible at counting. Are you referincing Mrkajz44 misstype on post #349?

Your vote put Agulati at 5, Bonded and I were at 4 at the time. DropIT tied it at 5, I was the last person to vote which made it;

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

You're correct. I'm quoting MrKajz on post #349, which does look like a misstype now.

That does make your vote not make as much sense for a troll.

Seriously man?

[Scornfire]

Just because I'm annoyed now, here's my notes on your theories that you didn't bother to add any corrections to

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Awesome work Flames Fans, grabbing two oiler trolls on the first two days is pretty impressice.

After re-reading the entire thread, I'm suspicious of Scornfire. He spent the first few pages of the game simply trying to lay low (as mentioned in post #244 when Pux asks about investigating people who posted later in the day, I hadn't even seen the PM until the next day, I was at 38 posts the end of day 1, twice your combined day 1/2 count), claiming to not be available, and posting frequently about how the game was 'too meta' or dissapointing (It was, I'll forgive you for having to look up the meaning and somehow collating that to something) . This would fit with GGG's posting seeming to protect new players. Yet he posted just enough not to be the lowest poster. (See above, not to mention that I was one of the loudest people against this idea of GGG's)

In post 248 he references a conversation between Hockey/Biz/Sebc and then adds on GGG's name after. Seems like he was debating whether to even mention GGG for some reason. (Nope, He's in Post #248 clearly named and post #245 is an easy reference to GGG being the main target, if you read that as him being an Afterthought that's on you)

GGG didn't mention the tied vote between Scornfire and Agulati/Bonded when he flipped his vote from Puxlut to Agulati to try and raise votes on Day 1. Notable omission that was also mentioned by bizaro. (I can't account for other people's #### ups)

Scorn tries to push votes to bizaro and day one (also not a thing, the only time I mention Bizaro is Post #337 as a response to MrKajz asking if anyone would be willing to look elsewhere, being that I thought Bonded and Agulati were both innocent, I was) and repeatedly claimed he doesn't think Bonded is oiler troll. However he is boxed in with a tied vote for either him or Bonded (Wrong) and has to move now, making a great cover. Scornfire does vote for bonded late on game day 1, breaking a tie . But then Bonded calls Scorn 'definitely a townie' even after he votes to lynch him, which is a strange response right before you may be lynched. (I think we've discussed this enough)

Day 2 Scorn comes in with an early theory against me, but making mistakes on the vote count kind of goes quiet when there is no support. (8 Minutes between original post and correction does not fit this narrative) After consensus begins to build on a vote for GGG he has a long post accusing GGG of being a troll, and saying that he's leaning towards a vote on GGG. He never follows through on this vote. (As mentioned in #412/#413 I wasn't confident enough in my reads to vote at that point and it was a blink before we reached threshold on GGG, which meant I didn't need to vote and risking a ban hammer is pure stupidity)

He spends his next few posts instead defending GGG (Citation needed, the strongest argument I give against banning him is not wanting to potentially kill off a strong player *If* there's a possiblity they're flames fans, meanwhile we had 2 players giving us absolutely nothing to consider (you and WF))and being concerned with how the votes are piling up against him. (Do you recall the self ban?) He continually suggests voting for less active players, making sure to sometime mention how he distrusts GGG.

Today again he mentions how he was against GGG the whole time.

Methinks he doth protest too much.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

Wrong Devo, you guys keep quoting the Mrkajz miscount for some reason

When I voted it was 5 Agulati, 5 Bonded and 4 me. And now ####ing EoJ reinforces that misquote AGAIN after being corrected in post #565/566 and ADMITTING he was wrong in post #567, for real? If you're a Flames fan I'm genuinely beside myself

you're right, sorry. Scrolled below your vote and took the mrkajz count for granted. I really need my sleep lol, it's midnight over here.


I'll stick with my initial feelings about crazy_eoj.

[devo22]

vote: crazy_eoj

[agulati]

I think we have cleared it up that bonded and I were the ones who had a chance for being lynched on day 1, and not scorn. I find crazy's posts either (a) completely novice or (b) deliberately misleading. I'm going to throw my vote in his direction, but let us not rush for a hammer.

[agulati]

vote: Crazy_eoj

[agulati]

I think he sits at 4 votes now and clearly in the lead. Let us talk it out, but also talk out alternatives if he turns out to be town. If we end up being wrong and I am unable to post again before the night, and I get lynched overnight, I'm going to say keep an eye out for Seb or HG.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

Seriously man?

Take a deep breath, your move is strategic for a troll whether the vote is tied or avoiding voting with your other trollmates.

[Scornfire]

You don't get to be corrected for the same blatantly incorrect argument twice and just brush that kind of mistake off

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

You don't get to be corrected for the same blatantly incorrect argument twice and just brush that kind of mistake off

Lol ok.

Devo made the mistake. My argument stands, there's nothing to be corrected. You were boxed in to make a vote and decided strategically to eliminate another troll.

I give you credit for having decent strategy. It might even be something I have done if I was troll as well.

[Scornfire]

YOU made the mistake post #563, and despite being corrected and noting that you were wrong, waste no time in reinforcing the exact same misread by Devo and trying to leverage it into a vote against me

[crazy_eoj]

Ok I'm going off, not likely to be on much tonight but will try to come in right before nightfall to see the votes. Sadly looks like I will be lynched later tonight even though anyone willing to consider the big picture should see there's no way I'm playing troll that poorly.

I'd be willing to switch my vote to SebC is there's enough consensus, but I think that's doubtful at this point.

If I don't make another post....Keep in mind that actual final troll IS playing strategically. Fun game otherwise!

Remove vote: mrkjz44