[News] Feaster and Weisbrod relieved of duties. Burke will hire a new GM

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

The more i think about it the more I do agree that this is the right move. The asset management has been fairly horrendous.

Bouwmeester/Regehr/Iginla all traded and the only guys actually playing on the Flames right now from those three trades combined are Reto Berra, Chris Butler, and Paul Byron. No matter how you spin that, yikes that doesn't look good.

True. Regehr's contribution to the Kings is especially irksome.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by driveway

Moving anyone to get wins right now is utterly idiotic. We WANT to suck. The best player in ten years is going to be drafted first overall in 2015 and anything we do to jeopardize a 25% shot at that player is friggin' stupid.

This team should be showing improvement and forward progression year after year, not intentionally trying to bottom out, that's just fricken stupid.

If this team is in last overall next year it should be a disappointment.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't think Burke bought your excuse. This is a man after all that was used to getting 1st round picks for broken down players like Kaberle or getting Lupul, Gardiner and a 4th for Beauchemin.

I think if you switched Feaster and Burke during the Iginla trading process, nothing would have changed. Iginla wanted to play for Pittsburgh only, he wanted a Cup first and foremost and saw that stacked roster and thought it was his best chance. Even the best GM ever is going to struggle to make a good deal with no leverage at all. Those other situations are different because you actually can create leverage. A NMC is just deadly to an organization, and I always think its a mistake to give one.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I don't think it's about that at all, trout.

I think it's about maximizing assets this year and getting someone in to capitalize on the accumulated picks calgary looks to want to get by the draft for their UFAs.

I hope you are right, but Burke's comments about losing leads and not being big this season, make me worry that there is no patience here.

Feaster has made some mistakes, and some good moves too. I hope the focus is on the long term.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'm starting to get worked up the more I think about it. The return for Iginla from Pittsburg was terrible.

The Pengiuns did fleece the Flames but in considering they crashed and burned in the playoffs they got what they deserved.

[Sylvanfan]

I am surprised Feaster lasted this long after the Ryan O'Reilly thing. The timing does seem curious, but Burke must have decided that he needs to hire his new GM now to get the best deadline deals, and have a chance to get the scouting for this upcoming draft in line. Weisbrod is certainly a surprise, Burke must have people in mind, and have an idea that these individuals have their own people they want in that role. Have to think that this is certainly a lame duck coaching staff that likely doesn't last the year now. Might be a situation where Hartley is fired and Gelinas is allowed to finish out the year as the interim head coach and a full search will be done in the offseason.

[1stLand]

I think the Mark Jankowski pick might be the dumbest draft pick the Flames ever make.

Looking at this progress this year (points) he is on pace to match last years production.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'm starting to get worked up the more I think about it. The return for Iginla from Pittsburg was terrible.

Klimchuk, Hanowski (6th in AHL rookie scoring) and Agostino (Leading his team in scoring)

Not amazing, but still has some potential.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I think if you switched Feaster and Burke during the Iginla trading process, nothing would have changed. Iginla wanted to play for Pittsburgh only, he wanted a Cup first and foremost and saw that stacked roster and thought it was his best chance. Even the best GM ever is going to struggle to make a good deal with no leverage at all. Those other situations are different because you actually can create leverage. A NMC is just deadly to an organization, and I always think its a mistake to give one.

When Feaster reached the deal with the Bruins he told Iginla and Iggy asked him to talk to the Penguins one more time which he did and accepted a lesser offer. Feaster should have come back to the Iginla camp and said they talked but couldn't get it done and we are trading you to the Bruins. End of story as Iginla would have gone to Boston. There's no way he pulls the plug and stays after a deal being struck.

[jg13]

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

And also the fact that it's accepted practice to get a player to sign off on a list of teams they will waive the NTC for. This looks like a piece of administration that was not handled properly by Feaster to the detriment of the franchise.

But it wasn't ever going to be a list of teams he'd go to. It was Pittsburgh and thats it. Once he knew they wanted to acquire him, that was that.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The Pengiuns did fleece the Flames but in considering they crashed and burned in the playoffs they got what they deserved.

Boston's offer literally looks twice as good. What with the players they offered actually fricken playing in the NHL or AHL and producing.

[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Flames had 3 first round picks in the last deep draft and only one was good - that was Monahan. They wasted their picks that came from J-Bo and Iggy trades. Weisbrod is a tool! Even with Monahan, he's not the team's franchise like that of Iggy by any means. Flames need to sink deep and get a franchise player in this next couple of years.

Really. Monahan, who's strong candidate for the Calder and plays like 25 year old isn't a franchise player?

Poirer who's tearing apart the Q and is showing signs of being a strong played (out pacing Shatinkirk) is a wasted pick?

Klimchuck, who is besides being hurt, showing strong promise yet again for the Pats is a wasted pick?

I understand some of the debate around those picks, but have a look at the Prospects thread and then come back. IMO two of Poirer, Monahan, and Klimchuk will be top six players for the Flames for years to come. Most likely all three will make the big club for some length.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by driveway

Moving anyone to get wins right now is utterly idiotic. We WANT to suck. The best player in ten years is going to be drafted first overall in 2015 and anything we do to jeopardize a 25% shot at that player is friggin' stupid.

I am sorry. The day I get confirmation that this organization is trying to suck, is the day I stop cheering for it.

[FlamesAddiction]

I am surprised that it happened mid-season, but like others mentioned, when Burke was hired, he was hired to eventually make changes. It makes me think that make Burke has someone in mind and couldn't afford to wait on it.

Weisbrod had been good, but I suspect Burke wants to let the new GM pick the people he works with. I wouldn't be surprised if Weisbrod is still a candidate though.

Hartley is probably a dead man walking right now as well.

[1stLand]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The Pengiuns did fleece the Flames but in considering they crashed and burned in the playoffs they got what they deserved.

This was Iginla's doing because he veto'ed a better deal with the Bruins.

But people think of Iginla as a "sacred cow" so don't you dare ever blame or criticize him.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by EM11

Did anyone doubt that Burke was the new GM of the Calgary Flames when he came on board?

I did, and I questioned people here on CP who openly suggested this. I owe all of them an apology. I took Burke's words at face value. I feel foolish now.

[killer_carlson]

This is what I take:

1) Jankowski isn't the diamond in the rough that has been trumpeted.
2) The team wants to pull the trigger on some moves that are out there from teams up against the cap, but Feaster is waiting.
3) The return on Boumeester was insufficient
4) The handling of the Iginla trade was improper
5) The team is too soft and he doesn't like it

I'm still in shock with this.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by troutman

I hope you are right, but Burke's comments about losing leads and not being big this season, make me worry that there is no patience here.

Feaster has made some mistakes, and some good moves too. I hope the focus is on the long term.

I don't think you should mistake impatience for incompetence.

I think a major factor here IS the impatience, the belief that things SHOULD be further along, and that Feaster and Weisbrod were seemingly obstacles to accelerating the rebuild process.

That doesn't necessarily mean the process will be accelerated at the detriment of the final product, but maybe more of the idea that delaying the firing of Feaster was delaying the rebuild.

Based on an impartial review of the previous years of the Flames, there is plenty evidence to conclude the organization should be further along in their rebuild than they are. Not having the correct management personnel is obviously part of that.

I am now more optimistic about the long term stability of the organization today than I was yesterday or any point in the preceding 3 years.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Sick.

Holiday freeze my ass. I didn't even really like Feaster that much. But this blows.

No class here. Unless Feaster took a dump on Brian's desk, I can't see any excuse for this timing.

It's freaking evil.

It's December 12th dude.....seriously?