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Old 05-06-2012, 10:43 PM   #661
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The end is near - Bettman and Jamison in Glendale to announce agreement tomorrow

https://twitter.com/#!/judefox10
Certainly a big step if true, but let's not forget that there are still a lot of bridges to cross.

I hope it works out, I still genuinely think that that market could be very lucrative if handled properly.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:13 PM   #662
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http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/m...otes-deal.html

Not holding my breath. When Bettman gives Jamison the keys, I will believe it.

But it cant hurt to be a little positive. Just hope it doesn't distract the team.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:50 PM   #663
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Is anyone else concerned that Jamison is still an owner, albeit minority owner, in the Sharks? Isn't that a conflict of interest?
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:53 PM   #664
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Hopefully this will cause it to stop being an issue. Four years of this crap, I'm sick of hearing about it. Move or stay and shut up, either one, I don't care.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:04 AM   #665
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Is anyone else concerned that Jamison is still an owner, albeit minority owner, in the Sharks? Isn't that a conflict of interest?
As long as he sells off his share of the Sharks, it shouldn't be an issue at all.

When the Gund brothers were granted the expansion franchise in San Jose, they had to sell off the North Stars, and Norm Green (who was one of the Flames owners at the time) was part of the committee tasked with finding a suitable owner in Minnesota. After reviewing all the information, he decided to sell his share of the Flames and buy the team himself.

Other owners over the years have gone from owning all or part of one team to owning all or part of another (Craig Leipold, who now owns the Wild, used to own the Predators).
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:17 AM   #666
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As long as he sells off his share of the Sharks, it shouldn't be an issue at all.

When the Gund brothers were granted the expansion franchise in San Jose, they had to sell off the North Stars, and Norm Green (who was one of the Flames owners at the time) was part of the committee tasked with finding a suitable owner in Minnesota. After reviewing all the information, he decided to sell his share of the Flames and buy the team himself.

Other owners over the years have gone from owning all or part of one team to owning all or part of another (Craig Leipold, who now owns the Wild, used to own the Predators).
Yes, if he sells his shares It wouldn't be any issue anymore. I guess I'm a little surprised the article didn't mention it though.
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Norm Green (who was one of the Flames owners at the time) was part of the committee tasked with finding a suitable owner in Minnesota. After reviewing all the information, he decided to sell his share of the Flames and buy the team himself.
Best thing that ever happened to the flames was Green leaving.

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Old 05-07-2012, 08:10 AM   #668
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it will be interesting to see the mathematical magic behind this "sale"
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:56 AM   #669
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What I want to know is if Glendale pays this group $17M per year, does the CoG get money in lease payments from the Coyotes and if so how much? They have to be getting more than $17M or it doesn't pay for them to want to keep the team.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:01 AM   #670
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NHL to announce sale of Phoenix Coyotes

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hocke...ent/54801608/1

"USA TODAY Sports has confirmed that NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman will be in Arizona Monday afternoon to announce that the Phoenix Coyotes have tentatively been sold after two seasons of league ownership."


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What I want to know is if Glendale pays this group $17M per year, does the CoG get money in lease payments from the Coyotes and if so how much? They have to be getting more than $17M or it doesn't pay for them to want to keep the team.
Or it would cost more than $17M to operate the arena on their own, in which case this arrangement saves them money.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:06 AM   #672
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Congrats Coyotes fans. Hopefully the playoff run and new ownership provides the boost the franchise needs.
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I've always hoped that we could follow the SJ model as a team in an untraditional market that can succeed.

And it looks like we've got the braintrust behind ALL of it in SJ.

This wait may have been very much worth it. I won't be dancing until I see it on paper signed sealed and delivered but this is a huge step.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:22 AM   #674
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well i feel terrible for QC fans. they deserve a team for sure.

on the bright side this means cheap flights to Phoenix in the fall to see a Jets game and do some Arizona shopping and relaxing.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:49 AM   #675
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Buy every vial of red ink you can find, Greg. You're gonna need it.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:55 AM   #676
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Or it would cost more than $17M to operate the arena on their own, in which case this arrangement saves them money.
I've found some information.

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At a council workshop last week, Deputy City Manager Jim Colson said a city-commissioned analysis by TL Hocking & Associates projected Glendale could expect to bring in an average of $15.7 million annually over a 20-year lease with Jamison and $6.5 million without the Coyotes.
If that's the case, than they are losing 1.3M per year with the Coyotes and would earn $6.5 without. This still doesn't take into account their mortgage payments for the arena or the loss in sales taxes for the area.
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To me, at the end of the day... if the fans don't show up consistently to support the team, this sale won't matter. I hope Jamison has a few marketing tricks up his sleeve. That fanbase in the Phoenix / Glendale area is a volatile one.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:37 AM   #678
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If that's the case, than they are losing 1.3M per year with the Coyotes and would earn $6.5 without. This still doesn't take into account their mortgage payments for the arena or the loss in sales taxes for the area.
Right, as well as a number of other revenue streams (and costs). We've got a very partial picture of the whole thing, so it's tough to really judge, and the CoG doesn't appear to be run by the most astute people in the world so taking their word for it is tough too.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:01 PM   #679
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Bettman presser 6pm Pacific - 7pm Mountain
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Nothing is guaranteed yet, the GWI will still be reviewing everything and if the city is trying to gift taxpayer money to Jamison to cover loss then I'm sure they will take it to court and rightfully so.
http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-new...-coyotes-case/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ontent=2424848

Hopefully Jamison does not want to go through a lengthy legal battle and the deal gets quashed.
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