General Ongoing Coyotes saga thread

[woob]

Originally Posted by valo403

I'm not sure I understand your question. If the Coyotes stay in Phoenix, and no other markets fail, the only way Quebec gets in is via expansion. Hence the expansion fee.

I just find it unlikely that the NHL would actually expand beyond 30 teams any time in the near future, thus providing a reason to not give an existing NHL franchise that is in financial troubles to Quebec. Wouldn't they stand to make a considerable sum from the re-location fee, even though it wouldn't be the same as the expansion fee?

[tjinaz]

You are questioning the ethical sense of moving a hockey team to the most corrupt province in Canada?

Just find it odd that you are coming out against political corruption and moving to Quebec in the same line of thought. There has probably been more corruption just in planning to get an arena built in Quebec than there ever has been in Glendale.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/24/t...rupt-province/

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/04/20/a...and-bad-taste/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2416129/

[nik-]

Yeah! ... the Provincial government of Quebec! ... who will apparently be owning the franchise? Quebec has so much to learn how real, non-corrupt governments run before the province owns and runs a hockey team!

Pumping 50 million tax dollars into a venture that a massively small fraction of the population cares for seems completely legit to me. Glendale should teach them how government runs.

[tjinaz]

Ok then. Just seems odd that people are questioning the "ethics" of the NHL and Glendale as opposed to those of Quebec. One is well known for its corruption and the others are a hockey league and a city in Arizona. Isn't Quebec City the home of the Legislature?

Sorry I just googled Quebec and corruption and didn't have time to go through the hundreds of links.

[nik-]

What does the Quebec legislature have to do with Quebec City being a better hockey market then Phoenix?

[tjinaz]

What does the NHL's and Glendale's ethics have to do with Phoenix being a bad one?

All I know is, and what started this train were the words Quebec and ethics being in the same paragraph with the former being a good alternative.

[nik-]

Well seeing as the city has to pay $25 million a year because no one will go watch the games, I think they fit pretty well together.

[tjinaz]

Yea well if ethics were an issue Quebec would automatically be disqualified.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by nik-

Well seeing as the city has to pay $25 million a year because no one will go watch the games, I think they fit pretty well together.

How? Where is the ethical issue? Not one person has made a sensible argument tying the two together.

[troutman]

Jamison bid to buy Phoenix Coyotes on track, Glendale officials told


http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...n.html?ana=twt

The Glendale City Council has been briefed privately this week on the Phoenix Coyotes sale, including further assurances that a group led by Greg Jamison has the money in place to buy the team and keep hockey in Arizona.

That sets the stage for a possible Glendale council vote next week on an arena lease deal and payments to the Jamison group that could total $17 million next year.

Four of the council’s seven members are on board with the latest Coyotes plan, according to sources familiar with the situation.


Coyotes deal close to being done

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/02...-to-being-done


If the Jamison deal doesn’t fly, there are rumours of second, deep-pocketed group that is interested in the Coyotes, but would want a considerably shorter lease.

[troutman]

Lisa Halverstadt ‏ @LisaHalverstadt Another sports headache for #Glendale: #AZ Cardinals threaten suit, seek $66.7M for lost parking. http://bit.ly/JtSjWT


Lisa Halverstadt ‏ @LisaHalverstadt
.@The_Real_Sparky @AvsCoyotes12 @the_forceman @mariowroy Goldwater gets to see any deal due to a court order in a records case. #Coyotes


Lisa Halverstadt ‏ @LisaHalverstadt
.@mariowroy To be clear: Goldwater Institute does not have to approve a potential deal. However, they may challenge it in court. #Coyotes

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by troutman

Jamison bid to buy Phoenix Coyotes on track, Glendale officials told

Coyotes deal close to being done

It feels like they say this every other week.

Count me on the side of the skeptics. This sounds like the NHL's desire to keep the arena full until the playoffs are over.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

Ok then. Just seems odd that people are questioning the "ethics" of the NHL and Glendale as opposed to those of Quebec. One is well known for its corruption and the others are a hockey league and a city in Arizona. Isn't Quebec City the home of the Legislature?

Sorry I just googled Quebec and corruption and didn't have time to go through the hundreds of links.

You googled 'Quebec' and 'Corruption' and only got hundreds? They must be better than you thought.

[hwy19man]

Originally Posted by troutman

Lisa Halverstadt ‏ @LisaHalverstadt Another sports headache for #Glendale: #AZ Cardinals threaten suit, seek $66.7M for lost parking. http://bit.ly/JtSjWT

I was wondering how long it would be when the Cardinals would get into this Glendale circus.

[troutman]

I get these e-mails all the time (and sometimes phone calls) after attending one game in PHO last season:

http://view.coyotesmarketing.com/?j=...017a771272&r=0

Coyotes to Host Predators in Game 5 of
Western Conference Semi-Finals Monday.
Tickets available starting at $54!

[troutman]

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../19713131.html

The Phoenix Coyotes' top executive is confident the team is staying put in the desert.

"I'm planning for next year, we're renewing tickets, we're making plans for next year and, so, I fully expect it," Coyotes COO and president Mike Nealy told QMI Agency and ESPN.com in an interview Thursday outside the team's dressing room.

"I know it's not a guarantee, but I would say I'd put a high probability on it."

[Dogbert]

Originally Posted by troutman

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../19713131.html

The Phoenix Coyotes' top executive is confident the team is staying put in the desert.

"I'm planning for next year, we're renewing tickets, we're making plans for next year and, so, I fully expect it," Coyotes COO and president Mike Nealy told QMI Agency and ESPN.com in an interview Thursday outside the team's dressing room.

"I know it's not a guarantee, but I would say I'd put a high probability on it."

Sure they are. It isn't like we've heard this at least once a week for three years or anything.

Nobody in their right mind will buy the Phoenix Coyotes unless the City of Glendale agrees to cover a large part of the team's losses each year. The City of Glendale no longer wishes to do so. Unless the NHL can find a total sucker willing to flush $20 million down the toilet every year, the Coyotes will be playing hockey elsewhere sooner rather than later, and the NHL will finally be able to move on from the gargantuan mistake it made by allowing the team to go to Arizona in the first place.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Dogbert

Sure they are. It isn't like we've heard this at least once a week for three years or anything.

Nobody in their right mind will buy the Phoenix Coyotes unless the City of Glendale agrees to cover a large part of the team's losses each year. The City of Glendale no longer wishes to do so. Unless the NHL can find a total sucker willing to flush $20 million down the toilet every year, the Coyotes will be playing hockey elsewhere sooner rather than later, and the NHL will finally be able to move on from the gargantuan mistake it made by allowing the team to go to Arizona in the first place.

I understand COG has the votes to give $17M per year.

[Hockeyboy2]

I was in Phoenix and playing golf with an apparent wildlife advocate. This is what he had to say about the potential sale of the Coyotes of Phoenix:

"Phoenix has no interest in selling any Coyotes, why do zoos in Canada have some sort of shortage"

So yes Phoenix has no interest in selling any coyotes.

[Jordan!]

The end is near - Bettman and Jamison in Glendale to announce agreement tomorrow

https://twitter.com/#!/judefox10