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Old 08-19-2023, 09:18 PM   #6741
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Fact: you've demonstrated that you don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion.



Opinion: you backing it up with 'Be smarter' is deliciously ironic!
Fact: the team is ####!

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Old 08-19-2023, 09:22 PM   #6742
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Fact: you've demonstrated that you don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion.

Opinion: you backing it up with 'Be smarter' is deliciously ironic!
Oh don't forget "grow up"
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:29 PM   #6743
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Oh don't forget "grow up"
They followed 'grow up' with post #6741 - it just doesn't get any better!
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:30 PM   #6744
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Man I am just dying for a rumour. Any rumour. Even Eklund mom's basement rubbish. Anything other than the bickering.
There you go the latest from Eklund, I'm not going to link anything to not give the guy clicks hehe.

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Fact: the team is ####!

Reality: you like sucking knobs!

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I don't post much cause I really just enjoy reading this site for the valid opinions and news. Can we not do this? I notice it happening more and more but can people please just disagree without the weird attacks and insults.

Sorry if I sound like a whiner, maybe im just being sensitive. And maybe it is just summer but im noticing it here more and more. People on the internet are still people, you can disagree without the vitriol.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:41 PM   #6746
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Grain of salt time again, but Rob Ellis of NHL Trade Rumor (???) says the Bruins have been linked to Mikael Backlund, and proposes that the trade would be Backlund (25% retained), and a 2024 3rd for Jake Debrusk.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:45 PM   #6747
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Fact: the team was garbage last year and didnt make the playoffs
No, it's your opinion that the team was garbage. The fact is that half the teams in the league did not make the playoffs. Are you saying that half the teams in the league every season are garbage? Because that's a pretty bold opinion, and by no means a fact.

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Fact: if they got in they get absolutely embarrassed
No, that is your guess. It is, to be precise, a counterfactual, a statement about something that is already known not to be a fact, so it is twice removed from being a fact. It is, as they say, ‘not even wrong’.

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Old 08-19-2023, 09:46 PM   #6748
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Would be an absolute steal for the Flames.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:49 PM   #6749
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Grain of salt time again, but Rob Ellis of NHL Trade Rumor (???) says the Bruins have been linked to Mikael Backlund, and proposes that the trade would be Backlund (25% retained), and a 2024 3rd for Jake Debrusk.
That's actually okay. Just okay though. Positional DeBrusk doesn't make much sense. Flames still have a plethora of LW.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:50 PM   #6750
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Would be an absolute steal for the Flames.
DeBrusk is younger, but Backlund is the better player, and plays a more important, two-way game. And while DeBrusk is a little cheaper this year, he will be looking for a big raise.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:51 PM   #6751
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Fact: the team is ####!

Reality: you like sucking knobs!

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Reality: You're likely going on a holiday from the site, now just two more...
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I cant understand that. Explain how they are the better team than the one with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. Cause that team wasnt good enough. So we got worse. You are saying we could be better next year? I am open freaking ears for you to explain that to me!

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Fact: you have a hard time reading, or comprehending what is being written.
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Old 08-19-2023, 10:04 PM   #6753
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I can’t help but admire their single minded quest to rid the world of toxic positivity.
I just can't believe that spurs posts word for word exactly the same as moon did back in the day, and follows and posts about the exact same handful of sports teams on CP, and yet we're still calling him "yikes". C'mon, CP, we're better than this.

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Old 08-19-2023, 10:15 PM   #6754
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I cant understand that. Explain how they are the better team than the one with Gaudreau and Tkachuk. Cause that team wasnt good enough. So we got worse. You are saying we could be better next year? I am open freaking ears for you to explain that to me!

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The team from a couple years ago with Gaudreau and Tkachuk (Canadian Div) was worse than the Flames last year.
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Old 08-19-2023, 10:16 PM   #6755
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No, it's your opinion that the team was garbage. The fact is that half the teams in the league did not make the playoffs. Are you saying that half the teams in the league every season are garbage? Because that's a pretty bold opinion, and by no means a fact.







No, that is your guess. It is, to be precise, a counterfactual, a statement about something that is already known not to be a fact, so it is twice removed from being a fact. It is, as they say, ‘not even wrong’.







Fantasy Land is where you think you can state facts about things that never happened.
Swap out my "fact" for reality or common sense and the answer is the same. "Fact" you are not capable of understanding what this team really is.

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Nobody is targeting a bubble team. He's just stating facts. If Markstrom had a !little better season we would've been in the playoffs. Now, if Huberdeau, Markstrom, and Mangiapane bounce back, coupled with a boost from some of our younger forwards. We could be challenging for the division.
No, the team absolutely 100% is (targeting a bubble team). If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be consistently managing their teams the way they do regardless of who the GM is. We won the division on the backs of Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk, two of which bailed, a hard to play for elite coach (who has now been kicked out), and a once in a career season by Markstrom.

The teams believe the way they conduct business/build teams is good enough. It’s not.

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Old 08-19-2023, 10:37 PM   #6757
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Swap out my "fact" for reality or common sense and the answer is the same. "Fact" you are not capable of understanding what this team really is.

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I suggest you guys just agree to disagree.

Make a bet for a $50 CP donation or something. If the Flames get less than 3 playoff wins you win. More than 3 playoff wins he does. If we lose in game 7 it's inconclusive.
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Old 08-19-2023, 10:51 PM   #6758
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I suggest you guys just agree to disagree.

Make a bet for a $50 CP donation or something. If the Flames get less than 3 playoff wins you win. More than 3 playoff wins he does. If we lose in game 7 it's inconclusive.
Im sure as ####! Not hugging this out!

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Old 08-19-2023, 11:10 PM   #6759
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I have no idea what you just said there. It's either because English is not my first language, or because I'm getting too old to understand that dielect. I'd be greatful if you could clarify what you meant.

If I understood you right, though I suggest you take a day away from CP. You won't be convincing anyone of anything, especially when you're angry. Such posts only take away from arguments you have made previously.
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Old 08-19-2023, 11:25 PM   #6760
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I suggest you guys just agree to disagree.
I only made one post in this argument, and that was to point out that Chonger is in fact stating counterfactuals and not facts.

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Make a bet for a $50 CP donation or something. If the Flames get less than 3 playoff wins you win. More than 3 playoff wins he does. If we lose in game 7 it's inconclusive.
I wouldn't bet anyone $50 that I am alive. But the definition of ‘fact’ is not subject to the outcome of a bet.
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