[Trade] Canucks trade Quinn Hughes to the Wild for 2026 1st, Rossi, Buium, and Ohgren

[Jiri Hrdina]

I actually prefer the NJD package if it could have happened.

Mercer=Rossi
Nemec=Buium (I think Nemec is under-rated but has been very good this year and would thrive with more opportunity)
Silayev>Ohgren
and then you have the 1sts.

[ForeverFlameFan]

So, essentially a bidding war to drive up the price. And a lot of those teams that were in on Hughes could shift towards Andersson.

[Toonage]

Not with those same offers obviously

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I actually prefer the NJD package if it could have happened.

Mercer=Rossi
Nemec=Buium (I think Nemec is under-rated but has been very good this year and would thrive with more opportunity)
Silayev>Ohgren
and then you have the 1sts.

Yes, but it sounds like NJ was asking for retention. Minnesota didn't need retention.

Originally Posted by Toonage

Not with those same offers obviously

Of course not, but teams like the Canes/Red Wings who couldn't keep up with the other bids could shift towards RA with a lesser offer. NYR as a darkhorse for Andersson, Schneider + 1st + something else wouldn't be a bad deal for us.

[devo22]

I disagree with Buium=Nemec though. I think Nemec will be a good defenseman for a long time, but Buium has star potential.

I think Rossi+Buium+Öhgren and Mercer+Nemec+Silayev is very close. Probably comes down to preference.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I actually prefer the NJD package if it could have happened.

Mercer=Rossi
Nemec=Buium (I think Nemec is under-rated but has been very good this year and would thrive with more opportunity)
Silayev>Ohgren
and then you have the 1sts.

Jersey 1st would have been better too. Canucks could not wait to allow the Devils time to try to convince somebody to waive their trade protection. They could have traded Glass and had the Canucks eat 20% of Hughes salary (presumably for another asset) and got the better package.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I wasn't serious. I just think it's evidence that Vancouver didn't make some deliberate choice to go only for futures and youth. They actually wanted a similar aged established star. But NJ said no.

Hard to say for sure, the fact that all the rumoured packages were pretty similar (early 20s roster player + recent high pick + recent B prospect + 2026 1st) would suggest that's what they were targeting for the most part. But it could be that they changed course and were originally looking for a straight value swap.

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I actually prefer the NJD package if it could have happened.

Mercer=Rossi
Nemec=Buium (I think Nemec is under-rated but has been very good this year and would thrive with more opportunity)
Silayev>Ohgren
and then you have the 1sts.

Eh, I think Rossi is a bit better than Mercer and Buium is a better prospect at this point than Nemec, meanwhile Ohgren has some built-in value for the Canucks because of his junior days. But you're totally right that the relative value is going to be all the result of some fairly subjective prospect valuation that could easily swing the other way in 6 months.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Hard to say for sure, the fact that all the rumoured packages were pretty similar (early 20s roster player + recent high pick + recent B prospect + 2026 1st) would suggest that's what they were targeting for the most part. But it could be that they changed course and were originally looking for a straight value swap.

Eh, I think Rossi is a bit better than Mercer and Buium is a better prospect at this point than Nemec, meanwhile Ohgren has some built-in value for the Canucks because of his junior days. But you're totally right that the relative value is going to be all the result of some fairly subjective prospect valuation that could easily swing the other way in 6 months.

It sounds like the opposite - they started with a value swap and when NJ said no they pivoted to futures.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Yeah that's what I was saying, maybe they explored options for players in a similar age and contract situation first - although other than Hischier there probably weren't too many of those guys that would make sense. Could have gone after Tage Thompson or Joel Eriksson Ek, but that would have been even worse.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Yeah that's what I was saying, maybe they explored options for players in a similar age and contract situation first - although other than Hischier there probably weren't too many of those guys that would make sense. Could have gone after Tage Thompson or Joel Eriksson Ek, but that would have been even worse.

That would be a strange way to rebuild.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

It would be very on brand for ownership there, though... I wouldn't be surprised if those discussions about getting a star player equivalent (not really but you know what I mean) back in trade were earlier in the season, and as they fell down the standings it was easier for ownership to sign on to this path instead.

If so, that should rob any Canucks fan of hope that ownership will stick to a rebuild for long enough to do it properly; once they have a run of good play that looks like they might be in contention for a wild card they'll start trading picks and futures for playoff dates again.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Yeah that's what I was saying, maybe they explored options for players in a similar age and contract situation first - although other than Hischier there probably weren't too many of those guys that would make sense. Could have gone after Tage Thompson or Joel Eriksson Ek, but that would have been even worse.

This is why the "Vancouver is so smart compared to Calgary with Tkachuk" discussion isn't very apt. Calgary did have a futures trade they could have made but they went for a swap, and if persented, I bet Vancouver would too. So would a lot of teams who still had the parts Calgary did at the time.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

New Jersey never offered that because they could not move out the requisite salary. Everyone on that roster seems to have NTC or NMC protection.

They should almost trade us Mercer for Coleman at 50% just to free up some cap space.

But that would mean they aren't rebuilding!

/s

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I actually prefer the NJD package if it could have happened.

Mercer=Rossi
Nemec=Buium (I think Nemec is under-rated but has been very good this year and would thrive with more opportunity)
Silayev>Ohgren
and then you have the 1sts.

Could Kadri + Ras get you that?

Coleman and Ras?

Are NJD brave enough to go for it? Or will this be another meh year for them? I’m guessing the latter.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

If so, that should rob any Canucks fan of hope that ownership will stick to a rebuild for long enough to do it properly;

Oh, even if we stay dedicated to it through to the end of this season, it'll be gone in the off-season when UFA season starts.

"We have enough talented youth, lets look at competing"


Same as it ever was.

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Could Kadri + Ras get you that?

No.

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Coleman and Ras?

Also no.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Could Kadri + Ras get you that?

Coleman and Ras?

Are NJD brave enough to go for it? Or will this be another meh year for them? I’m guessing the latter.

I don't think it's what NJD needs so probably not.
Coleman would probably be the smart add for them.

Coleman for Seamus Casey?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Could Kadri + Ras get you that?

Coleman and Ras?

Are NJD brave enough to go for it? Or will this be another meh year for them? I’m guessing the latter.

NJ will never go anywhere in the playoffs with 1st shot Mark or 50 year old Jake Allen. They need a new goalie!

[ripTDR]

I don't think it factored in the deal, but I remember Hughes getting pretty knocked around and targeted in the Nash and Edm series to the point where he was struggling to be the difference maker. Will be interesting if it happens again