[Trade] Canucks trade Quinn Hughes to the Wild for 2026 1st, Rossi, Buium, and Ohgren

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

FU for making me go back into that PTSD thread again... lol

Is pulling a rabbit out of a hat and I Like It a bad thing?? lol

Now take a look at this. Next time do a more thorough search before attaching links and laughing at your own jokes.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=3957

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They've conceded on a fair number of things, starting with a hard salary cap, bonuses, escrow, etc. And the PA always seems swayed by the effect on top players, not rank and file. And top players would still get NMCs even if they were limited.

Saying the NHLPA “conceded” on a hard salary cap is a bit like saying Germany conceded on Poland.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

Now take a look at this. Next time do a more thorough search before attaching links and laughing at your own jokes.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=3957

Nobody cares what Johnny Makarov has to say. Guy is an absolute dick in every interaction I have had with him.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Nobody cares what Johnny Makarov has to say. Guy is an absolute dick in every interaction I have had with him.

Yeah says the loser who was hooting and hollering when the Kings scored the disallowed goal in OT.

Post more loser hahahahaha

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

Not sure what link "Johnny Makarov" was attaching, but this was my take on the Huberdeau trade/extension. I don't need to hide behind hindsight for my takes.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=3957

WTF? You better hide! that was post 3957 in that thread. wait that was posted in December! hahahahah everyone and their dog knew the trade was horrendous by then! lol

Post 531 July 22:

Gotta say Treliving pulled a rabbit out of the hat. Give props where they are due.

This is what you typed and the (Post 668 July22)stupid Thor I Like It gif
Are you saying I made up your posts? hahahaha. lame

Just admit you were wrong about the trade and stop making kyit up. Loser Rhett44 mentality.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Saying the NHLPA “conceded” on a hard salary cap is a bit like saying Germany conceded on Poland.

What? The NHLPA went in not wanting it and it was forced on them after a lockout. Unless you mean it backwards.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

WTF? You better hide! that was post 3957 in that thread. wait that was posted in December! hahahahah everyone and their dog knew the trade was horrendous by then! lol

Post 531 July 22:

This is what you typed and the (Post 668 July22)stupid Thor I Like It gif
Are you saying I made up your posts? hahahaha. lame

Just admit you were wrong about the trade and stop making kyit up. Loser Rhett44 mentality.

I love how you laugh at your own sh*t. I guess you know no one else is joining in. I was responding to someone else's comment in that post.

The trade was never horrendous; the extensions were. Those assets would've netted picks that would've accelerated the rebuild. Instead Treliving shackled us with long contracts.

[FanIn80]

Wait, I'm confused... when and how did this turn into the "make fun of people who thought we got good value for Tkachuk" thread?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

What? The NHLPA went in not wanting it and it was forced on them after a lockout. Unless you mean it backwards.

No. The Germans lost the War and all the territory they had occupied. They didn’t concede.

The PA didn’t concede either.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

No. The Germans lost the War and all the territory they had occupied. They didn’t concede.

The PA didn’t concede either.

Would you prefer "was forced to accept a hard cap, escrow, bonus limits, etc".

The point is that I'd never say never on any point as far as the PA "signing off". They know who holds the cards.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

No. The Germans lost the War and all the territory they had occupied. They didn’t concede.

The PA didn’t concede either.

This is an important distinction and totally flips the conversation on its head. Time well spent!

[sureLoss]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...ils-next-moves

According to an NHL source, there were discussions between the teams about Devils center Nico Hischier, their 26-year-old captain, even though he could also become an unrestricted free agent in 2027. New Jersey didn't have interest in that swap. But the Devils did have a lot of what the Canucks were looking for in a trade.

The belief is that Vancouver would have wanted a package of 21-year-old defenseman Simon Nemec, drafted second overall in 2022; 24-year-old center Dawson Mercer; KHL defenseman Anton Silayev, drafted 10th overall in 2024; and a first-round pick. That package was crafted with the understanding that Hughes was likely to sign an extension with the Devils.

The problem with the Devils' trade bid wasn't necessarily the bid itself -- although, ultimately, Minnesota's offer was better -- but in their inability to clear the necessary salary cap space to take on Hughes' $7.85 million AAV.

The Devils have 14 players with some level of trade protection on their current contracts. That includes veteran forward Ondrej Palat and defenseman Dougie Hamilton, two players they could have shipped out to facilitate the trade.

"They handed out some regrettable trade protection in the past and it handcuffed them," one NHL executive said.

The Canucks heard from plenty of NHL teams. Some dropped out quickly when the asking price came into focus.

"We were not even close," one NHL general manager who was in on the trade talks said.

Others saw their interest in a Hughes trade inflated by media speculation. One of those teams was the Washington Capitals, who were portrayed as a serious suitor. Sources told ESPN that was overstated, especially when it was made clear that the Capitals didn't want to move young forwards Ryan Leonard, Aliaksei Protas and Ilya Protas. That meant a Hughes bid could be built around center Connor McMichael and defensive prospect Cole Hutson of Boston University, but that wasn't going to beat other offers.

The Carolina Hurricanes, as they have with every big-name player available over the past few years, made their pitch. But their trade package wasn't in the ballpark of Minnesota's, according to an NHL source.

The Rangers inquired, given their proximity to Hughes' brothers' team. Winger Alexis Lafreniere has been a target for the Canucks for some time -- unsurprising, given his former agent, Émilie Castonguay, is their assistant general manager. But he wasn't the only player Vancouver coveted: The Canucks also were interested in forwards Gabe Perreault, Will Cuylle and Noah Laba, as well as defenseman Braden Schneider. Ultimately, the Rangers did not want to part with the requisite players to acquire Hughes.

The Detroit Red Wings made a pitch for Hughes, whose family relocated to Michigan around eight years ago. He also played for the University of Michigan and the U.S. National Development Team, which is headquartered in the state. Detroit captain Dylan Larkin is a friend. There was a thought that Detroit could acquire Hughes, extend him and then lure Jack there as a free agent in 2030. But for Detroit to match Minnesota's offer, it likely would have taken defenseman Simon Edvinsson, the sixth overall pick in 2021; winger Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, selected 15th overall in 2024; either Marco Kasper or Nate Danielson, two young centers with a taste of NHL experience; and a first-round pick. The Red Wings reportedly balked at a portion of that package.

The Buffalo Sabres reportedly made their pitch, desperately seeking a path back to the playoffs for the first time since 2011. Forward Zach Benson is a player the Canucks have coveted since they passed on him in favor of defenseman Tom Willander in the 2023 draft. Benson and defenseman Bowen Byram would have been the primary pieces in any deal that saw Hughes end up in Buffalo.

[Johnny Makarov]

Now lets hope all those rumoured pieces are super pissed off and are going to kick ass.

Meanwhile the former Wild guys will become disheartened by losing all the time and will demand a trade out of Riotville.

[Erick Estrada]

That Palat signing looked bad the day it was announced and looks worse today. I imagine the Devils may buy him out in the offseason. As always with NHL GM's it's the self-inflicted wounds that are their undoing.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Wait, I'm confused... when and how did this turn into the "make fun of people who thought we got good value for Tkachuk" thread?

It's a virus and it spreads across to other threads.

[GioforPM]

Would trading 26 year old Hughes for 26 year old Hischier be considered a rebuilding trade?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...ils-next-moves

The belief is that Vancouver would have wanted a package of 21-year-old defenseman Simon Nemec, drafted second overall in 2022; 24-year-old center Dawson Mercer; KHL defenseman Anton Silayev, drafted 10th overall in 2024; and a first-round pick. That package was crafted with the understanding that Hughes was likely to sign an extension with the Devils.

The problem with the Devils' trade bid wasn't necessarily the bid itself -- although, ultimately, Minnesota's offer was better -- but in their inability to clear the necessary salary cap space to take on Hughes' $7.85 million AAV.

I don't know that I agree that Minnesota's offer was better than that believed offer from New Jersey... I suppose it depends what you think of Silayev.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Would trading 26 year old Hughes for 26 year old Hischier be considered a rebuilding trade?

Absolutely not... very lucky for them that that didn't happen. Even the Nemec / Mercer package isn't as good IMO. The Detroit package that Detroit balked at might have been better than what Minnesota gave up. Regardless they're both pretty close.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Makarov

I don't know that I agree that Minnesota's offer was better than that believed offer from New Jersey... I suppose it depends what you think of Silayev.

New Jersey never offered that because they could not move out the requisite salary. Everyone on that roster seems to have NTC or NMC protection.

They should almost trade us Mercer for Coleman at 50% just to free up some cap space.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Absolutely not... very lucky for them that that didn't happen. Even the Nemec / Mercer package isn't as good IMO. The Detroit package that Detroit balked at might have been better than what Minnesota gave up. Regardless they're both pretty close.

I wasn't serious. I just think it's evidence that Vancouver didn't make some deliberate choice to go only for futures and youth. They actually wanted a similar aged established star. But NJ said no.