getting a little tired of the crack/meth heads

[JohnnyB]

Buses have racks for bikes on the front, don't they? Maybe they should also have baskets or something on the front for people with bags of bottles etc. that they need to move around but aren't good to have inside the bus.

[burn_this_city]

Struggling to understand why there isn't some kind of 3 strike system where you time out for 6 months to a year in a mental health/rehab facility. The road to hell seems to be paved with good intentions.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Once the green line is built into the SE, that should maximize the distribution of said crack and meth heads across the city, leaving North-Central unsullied by such hooligans and riff-raff.

Given what we know about crime concentrating and spilling out from CTrain stations now, you wouldn't be keen on being near the potential stations at this point.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Struggling to understand why there isn't some kind of 3 strike system where you time out for 6 months to a year in a mental health/rehab facility. The road to hell seems to be paved with good intentions.

The answer is pretty simple, the economic cost of prison and court is much greater than to social cost of letting them run free with no legal consequences.

[nik-]

This city needs Charles ####ing Bronson.

[Locke]

I have a solid, albeit wild, solution to our problems.

So...Peace Officers are limited in their abilities to handle this, especially concerning paid ridership.

So here is what I propose! that we convince the City of Calgary to sell their Rail transit to CP Rail.

Then we can get those Railway cops involved. If there is any group of Law Enforcement that has a long and proud history and tradition of brutally mistreating vagrants and ne'er-dowells its the Railyard Bulls!

Problem. Sorted.

Its genius! Locke for Mayor!

My slogan would be: "I couldnt be worse!! Probably."

[monkeyman]

Maybe we need to organize a protest. we could rent a bunch of busses and send them to Ottawa to protest. They could call themselves the freecrack convoy. I think Wormius has all but volunteered to drive one of the busses. I'll donate the first bag of bottles/cans to help fund this initiative.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by nik-

This city needs Charles ####ing Bronson.

Spoiler!

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Maybe we need to organize a protest. we could rent a bunch of busses and send them to Ottawa to protest. They could call themselves the freecrack convoy. I think Wormius has all but volunteered to drive one of the busses. I'll donate the first bag of bottles/cans to help fund this initiative.

I know a place we can find hundreds of em just sitting around in July. They’re yellow though. Will that be a problem?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Maybe we need to organize a protest. we could rent a bunch of busses and send them to Ottawa to protest. They could call themselves the freecrack convoy. I think Wormius has all but volunteered to drive one of the busses. I'll donate the first bag of bottles/cans to help fund this initiative.

Why? I am not the Helen Lovejoy here.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Buses have racks for bikes on the front, don't they? Maybe they should also have baskets or something on the front for people with bags of bottles etc. that they need to move around but aren't good to have inside the bus.

Seems like a horrible idea to just let people strap bags of glass to the front of a bus. What happens when one of those improperly secured and/or ripped bags starts spewing glass bottles, at speed, across the road, and potentially, sidewalk.

[Brendone]

Originally Posted by blankall

Seems like a horrible idea to just let people strap bags of glass to the front of a bus. What happens when one of those improperly secured and/or ripped bags starts spewing glass bottles, at speed, across the road, and potentially, sidewalk.

I assumed the individual would sit in the basket as well, holding / securing the bottles.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I am a big believer in us taking an extreme approach across the board to solving this issue. Like extreme. It won't ever happen cause I don't think anybody wants to actually deal with the issue.

We have decades of research that show that the war on drugs approach doesn't work. Safe-injection sites and safe supply are in their infancy in most places. Calling them a failure and advocating for a return to a war on drugs mentality is completely reactionary.

Violent crimes should absolutely be prosecuted to the fullest extent, but prosecuting simple possession crimes actually makes that harder due to the division of resources.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

The answer is pretty simple, the economic cost of prison and court is much greater than to social cost of letting them run free with no legal consequences.

H L MENCKEN:
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

A more nuanced answer is that prison is more expensive than housing the homeless, & effectively treating the mentally ill.

Sadly we live in an ideological society and an ideological province that attributes these difficulties personal attributes or lack thereof while ignoring established, tested, and entities best management to minimize the problem.

There are always reasons why people abuse substances.
Another lazy, simple statement.
The complexity is in the why & how can they stop.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by blankall

Seems like a horrible idea to just let people strap bags of glass to the front of a bus. What happens when one of those improperly secured and/or ripped bags starts spewing glass bottles, at speed, across the road, and potentially, sidewalk.

Basket tech has come a long way.

Anyways, my point is more just that public transportation is for the public, and if there are routes where members of the public have a need of something like transporting bags of bottles then it's good to try accommodating them in a way that doesn't cause issues for other riders. That's basically what the bike racks do.

[rubecube]

Meanwhile, in B.C...

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...lVlLdg4XLHMlYI

Adastra Holdings, a Langley-based cannabis company, received approval from Health Canada on Feb. 17 to “interact with” up to 250 grams of cocaine and to import coca leaves to manufacture and synthesize the substance. The company’s CEO said in a Feb. 22 press release it will explore the “commercialization” of cocaine to provide a safe supply of the drug.

[chemgear]

$$$

Originally Posted by rubecube

Meanwhile, in B.C...

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...lVlLdg4XLHMlYI

B.C. Premier David Eby said he’s astonished that the federal Health Department gave the green light to a Langley cannabis company to produce, sell, and distribute cocaine.

When asked by a reporter about the approval, Eby slammed Health Canada for not consulting B.C. before granting the company approval to produce cocaine.

“If Health Canada did in fact do this, they did it, not only without engaging with the province, but without notice to us,”

Michael Forbes, CEO of Adastra, said in a statement the company “will evaluate how the commercialization of (cocaine) fits in with our business model at Adastra in an effort to position ourselves to support the demand for a safe supply of cocaine.”

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Meanwhile, in B.C...

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...lVlLdg4XLHMlYI

Cocaine guaranteed to be fentanyl free? Where do I sign?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Cocaine guaranteed to be fentanyl free? Where do I sign?

Yeah, it's definitely a net positive, IMO, but not giving the province any kind of notice is dumb.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, it's definitely a net positive, IMO, but not giving the province any kind of notice is dumb.

If it's just for testing purposes I'm not sure I think that matters. If they were going to be supplying it later on, 100% have the province involved in that discussion