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Old 09-22-2014, 08:24 PM   #641
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Old 09-22-2014, 08:38 PM   #643
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The US has made their first attack against ISIS with bombings inside of Syria.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/22/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1
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5 Arab nations are taking part in this as well. This is very important actually.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-9747817.html

So, over/under on how much time Assad has left?

I'll give him 6 weeks.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:49 AM   #646
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So, over/under on how much time Assad has left?

I'll give him 6 weeks.
This move by the USA considerably extends Assad's shelf life. Assad had no answer for ISIS. The USA is able to his ISIS inside Syria, because Russia says it's okay. Russia has not okayed any strikes on Assad's position.

Basically, Russia has the USA doing their dirty work. Assad is Russia's closest ally in the region, and it looks like he'll be around for a little bit longer. After ISIS has been taken out, he may take power back indefinitely.
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Would be pretty wild if ISIS actually was able to galvanize the rest of the muslim world into a cohesive unit.
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:17 AM   #648
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This move by the USA considerably extends Assad's shelf life. Assad had no answer for ISIS. The USA is able to his ISIS inside Syria, because Russia says it's okay. Russia has not okayed any strikes on Assad's position.

Basically, Russia has the USA doing their dirty work. Assad is Russia's closest ally in the region, and it looks like he'll be around for a little bit longer. After ISIS has been taken out, he may take power back indefinitely.
ISIS has been a godsend for Assad, they've degraded his opposition, strengthened his power base (alawite Shia) generally avoided attacking his forces, all the while making everyone think (as they should) that maybe we're better off with a secular thug.

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Oh boy, genius move the the USA, using the 5-partner countries as cover. They can now present their case to the UN as helping the 5-partner countires in a inter-sunni conflict instead of we went after ISIS unsanctioned by Syria in Syria.
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:13 AM   #650
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Oh boy, genius move the the USA, using the 5-partner countries as cover. They can now present their case to the UN as helping the 5-partner countires in a inter-sunni conflict instead of we went after ISIS unsanctioned by Syria in Syria.
It's pretty hilarious actually. I wonder if the countries they mentioned even know they are involved. It was like they just randomly named 3 Arab countries and gave a rationale for why they might help, but then they didn't even say what the 4th Arab country was helping. It sounded like they were making it up as they were going.

Not that I disagree with the U.S. taking these measures to destroy ISIS, but it's funny how much CNN is just a mouthpiece and cheerleader in these situations.
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ISIS uses Chlorine Gas and kills 300-400 Iraqi troops

http://www.dailysabah.com/world/2014...inegas-attacks

This is a potential game changer, ISIS won't hesitate in using this on civilian sites.
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F-22s used in the current US airstrikes. Likely this is to avoid all the modern Russian and some captured American AA systems that ISIS has
http://defensetech.org/2014/09/22/re...ikes-in-syria/

EDIT: Interesting to note that a number of Arab countries also participated including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates

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F-22s used in the current US airstrikes. Likely this is to avoid all the modern Russian and some captured American AA systems that ISIS has
http://defensetech.org/2014/09/22/re...ikes-in-syria/

EDIT: Interesting to note that a number of Arab countries also participated including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates

Nah, probably to test out there new hardware.
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Nah, probably to test out there new hardware.
Nah, it's there to justify the cost and firm up support for the massive overruns and lousy performance figures.

That it probably flew in a straight line at 30,000 feet across Syria and did bugger all won't be mentioned, if they show film of it taking off and describe it's mission as tactical support you can guess that was what it did.
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F-22s used in the current US airstrikes. Likely this is to avoid all the modern Russian and some captured American AA systems that ISIS has
http://defensetech.org/2014/09/22/re...ikes-in-syria/

EDIT: Interesting to note that a number of Arab countries also participated including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates
Wonder how Putin is taking this?
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Wonder how Putin is taking this?
I would say pretty well. Putin is not a fan of radical Islamic radicals either. Long history of that with Chechnya and what not.

It seems like Chinese Islamists are now joining ISIS in their fight. Great move on their part... they have now managed to piss off every sitting member of the UN security council and that takes real talent
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle20735422/


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F-22s used in the current US airstrikes. Likely this is to avoid all the modern Russian and some captured American AA systems that ISIS has
http://defensetech.org/2014/09/22/re...ikes-in-syria/

EDIT: Interesting to note that a number of Arab countries also participated including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates
Many (if not all) of those countries also currently enjoy diplomatic relations with Israel. They are all happy to keep their regimes at the expense of groups like Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Destabilizing the region via funding these groups has proven to be a disaster to many nations.

Islamic radicalism is somehow creating a unified cause between nations.
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I would say pretty well. Putin is not a fan of radical Islamic radicals either. Long history of that with Chechnya and what not.

It seems like Chinese Islamists are now joining ISIS in their fight. Great move on their part... they have now managed to piss off every sitting member of the UN security council and that takes real talent
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle20735422/
It's interesting to me that Australia has supplied more ISIS recruits than their neighbour Indonesia, which also happens to be the most populous muslim (Sunni) nation on Earth.
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I would say pretty well. Putin is not a fan of radical Islamic radicals either. Long history of that with Chechnya and what not.

It seems like Chinese Islamists are now joining ISIS in their fight. Great move on their part... they have now managed to piss off every sitting member of the UN security council and that takes real talent
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle20735422/
I was thinking about how he feels about his modern anti-aircraft systems not able to see the F-22 or the new stealthy drone, NBC just said the Raptors based out of turkey likely took some out to pave the way for the rest of the aircraft.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:34 PM   #660
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The answer is a big friken NO, The muslims that claim to be peacefull also never say a word about the radicals and just "shrug" their shoulders when asked about it.
Bull F'ing ****. How many Muslims have you personally talked to about this? I know tons and you're completely incorrect in what you're saying and it's really offending that you would try to misrepresent the average Muslim like that.

It's such BS that they always get lumped into this stupid western, conservative white people version of themselves. Where they either

a) are a terrorist

b) support terrorism, or;

c) are okay with it

Most Muslims in Canada fall under the category of

d) I'm just a ****ing Canadian who gets up and goes to work and wishes for peace everywhere like everyone else, and can't stand when ignorant white Canadian's think I'm anything different because of my religion/culture/background.

So ignorant.
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