2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Bongsong

Haha Ruzicka

In what way is it laughable that Ruzicka could be come a Glencross or Bourque type player? Are you saying it's impossible that Ruzicka develops into a 40-60 point point player with jam? Ruzicka put up 20 points in 44 games last year with crap minutes and under Sutter's system. With consistent 2nd/3rd line minutes he may already be the 40-60 point player.

This team really has the potential to shock a lot of people. They just missed the playoffs last year and that was with all of their best forwards playing like dog @#$#@. If they half rebound and the young players get a fair chance, this team could do really well.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by blankall

In what way is it laughable that Ruzicka could be come a Glencross or Bourque type player? Are you saying it's impossible that Ruzicka develops into a 40-60 point point player with jam? Ruzicka put up 20 points in 44 games last year with crap minutes and under Sutter's system. With consistent 2nd/3rd line minutes he may already be the 40-60 point player.

This team really has the potential to shock a lot of people. They just missed the playoffs last year and that was with all of their best forwards playing like dog @#$#@. If they half rebound and the young players get a fair chance, this team could do really well.

Ruzicka was 23 years old last year. I love how people write off guys completely when they haven't shown consistency at this age. Not all players are stars when they are 18 and some take time to develop.

At times, Ruzicka looked very good last year. Then he got in Sutter's doghouse and never got out.

[Goriders]

Yeah. He fell off the face of the earth.

[Hot_Flatus]

Ruzicka could certainly have a nice season if he gets back to playing decent minutes. The problem is, this team isn't a productive Ruzicka away from getting where they need to be - competing for the division and going deep in the playoffs.

The Flames desperately need another top 6 player and have still not sorted out their goaltending situation, which has the potential to be an absolute train wreck as it is currently structured.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Ruzicka could certainly have a nice season if he gets back to playing decent minutes. The problem is, this team isn't a productive Ruzicka away from getting where they need to be - competing for the division and going deep in the playoffs.

The Flames desperately need another top 6 player and have still not sorted out their goaltending situation, which has the potential to be an absolute train wreck as it is currently structured.

They do need another top 6 forward, but their goaltending situation is fine - it will play out as Wolf's performance dictates. If he is killing it with his NHL starts, one of the other two will be moved sooner rather than later. If not, it could take a year before changes are made. But they will be made. And it isn't a 3 headed monster, as Wolf doesn't need to practice with the team.

[Toonage]

So he doesn't practice with his potential D core in front of him and just gets dropped in on any given night?

He absolutely needs to practice with the team.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by blankall

In what way is it laughable that Ruzicka could be come a Glencross or Bourque type player? Are you saying it's impossible that Ruzicka develops into a 40-60 point point player with jam? Ruzicka put up 20 points in 44 games last year with crap minutes and under Sutter's system. With consistent 2nd/3rd line minutes he may already be the 40-60 point player.

This team really has the potential to shock a lot of people. They just missed the playoffs last year and that was with all of their best forwards playing like dog @#$#@. If they half rebound and the young players get a fair chance, this team could do really well.

My viewpoint as well. Yes a lot of things have to go right. Markstrom has to have st least a 910%. Huby had to rebound but not really worried about that. Have to hope Sharangovich can mesh with the top line. The young guys have to perform, coronnato, pelts, Duer, wolf, again seems to be a given i think all of these guys will perform. Oliver has to come back as a top four. We have to find consistency on the bottom pairing on defence. If lindy signs the top line is mostly set. Kadri and mangy are set. If backs is traded the center position is where the question marks lay? Can Rucy come in and be a bottom six center? Or is that going to he in concert with Coronnato?

To my mind Rucicka may be the most frustrating player we have. Give him eat breads tenacity hes a middle six center all day and this team could be a powerhouse, but he doesnt.

If most of these happen this is a very good team. I expect a defencemen coming back in one of the trades. To me center is the lingering question

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Ruzicka could certainly have a nice season if he gets back to playing decent minutes. The problem is, this team isn't a productive Ruzicka away from getting where they need to be - competing for the division and going deep in the playoffs.

The Flames desperately need another top 6 player and have still not sorted out their goaltending situation, which has the potential to be an absolute train wreck as it is currently structured.

They might not be a Ruzicka away from being competitive, but they could be a Ruzicka, a Deuhr, a Pelletier, and a Coronato away. I'm not penciling these guys in as top line players, but if 2-3 become 40-60 point players it will drastically change this team for the better.

Because of the fact that the team, for no reason whatsoever, has log jammed our prospects for so long, we now have the biggest infusion of rookie talent coming into the system that the team has likely ever had.

No blue chip top prospects, but the best depth - with upside - in a long time for this team.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by blankall

They might not be a Ruzicka away from being competitive, but they could be a Ruzicka, a Deuhr, a Pelletier, and a Coronato away. I'm not penciling these guys in as top line players, but if 2-3 become 40-60 point players it will drastically change this team for the better.

Because of the fact that the team, for no reason whatsoever, has log jammed our prospects for so long, we now have the biggest infusion of rookie talent coming into the system that the team has likely ever had.

No blue chip top prospects, but the best depth - with upside - in a long time for this team.

Agreed again to my mind a lot of lines are set.
Huby lindy sharangs
Mangy kads ?
Coleman ? Duer
Pelts ? ?

To me the glaring hole at rw sticks out as well. Coronnato center or rw? Rucicka will he impress enough at camp to take center three if backs is traded? Which of our abundance of lw can we seitch to rw?

Add some of our young skilled guys and the depth is really good. Will they be inconsistent? Yup. But a hell of a lot better than watching some of our old acquisitions doing it.

[Sample00]

And here I thought this was the Trade Rumours and Speculations thread and not the, lets analyze every single Flames player

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So he doesn't practice with his potential D core in front of him and just gets dropped in on any given night?

He absolutely needs to practice with the team.

not on a daily basis, was my point

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Ruzicka has had a couple stretches where he was flirting with a PPG.

When he was actually going, he seemed like the only guy aside from Toffoli who could pick a corner of the net from any kind of distance.

He has a great shot. If he's more motivated by no longer being on Sutter's short leash then who knows what he could bring.

[NewFan]

I think Ruzicka still learning and he has a great potential.
Now Lewis is gone and Backlund, Lindholm may leave, there is good chance Ruzicka become PK guy and as a Centre he will learn lots of D zone plays.
He has a good offence skill so I hope he become a good 2b/3a Centre for us this year.

[GUnit]

Originally Posted by Sample00

And here I thought this was the Trade Rumours and Speculations thread and not the, lets analyze every single Flames player

If you want trade rumors just head over to the buy n sell thread

Welcome to cp

[Reggie Dunlop]

Ruzicka's toolbox is there. He needs more GAF in his game. If only he had Pospisil's compete level.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GUnit

If you want trade rumors just head over to the buy n sell thread

Welcome to cp

Over there you can post speculation on prices and sizes of flamesgimps jerseys that he's selling.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I like that the team will have a handful of unknowns going into the season. Mystery boxes are fun.

Could be duds, but could be a couple 2nd line studs in there too. Anything is possible.

This is more fun than 35 year old establish bottom 6 players who at their best will bring what they are known for, with a high chance of depreciating in value, but who you know are guaranteed to eat minutes simply because they are known quantities.

[FlamesAddiction]

I just hope that Ruzicka, as well as other young players, are given more rope to figure it out. I don't think it helps these guys much to make them sit for long periods of time for imperfections. The Flames have been terrible at times when it comes to having patience and developing players at the NHL level.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Ruzicka's toolbox is there. He needs more GAF in his game. If only he had Pospisil's compete level.

If he had Duehr's compete level he would be a star.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

If he had Duehr's compete level he would be a star.

Even if he didn't play a physical game (would be nice with his size), he just needs to play with more pace. It could be the difference between borderline NHLer and a quality 2nd/3rd liner.

Nice thing for all our young guys is we have a coach that will be more patient and a GM that has a desire to have these guys in the lineup rather than veteran players with no upside. It will be nice to see what we have as most of our top prospects are in the 21-23 range and should be NHL ready.