COVID-19 Vaccine Talk, 2nd Dose

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You can share this with him as well, if it's his biggest concern:



https://publications.aap.org/aapnews...eck=redirected


Because it is going to be endemic, pretty much everyone will get exposed. So by not vaccinating, you are exposing your kid to far more risk of myocarditis, and the vaccine obviously protects against many other ill effects of covid.


I can understand, emotionally, why some people might want to wait. But logically, it is the incorrect choice. I tend to think myocarditis isn't really a fear, it's just something you can point to as a manifestation of people's fear around giving something new to a kid. You could replace myocarditis with anything.

It's also higher for males and our only vaccine eligible child is a girl but now my husband is feeling ill and thinks he has myocarditis so....
He's definitely been susceptible to a lot of the misinformation floating around. Him getting vaccinated was hard enough; good Lord he'd better not get myocarditis or there will be no chance our kids will ever get vaccinated regardless of statistics.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Not sure why it isn't quoting GGG, but the two yes or one no rule applies to everything we discuss regarding our children. Who we are comfortable letting them stay with or babysit, what we are comfortable allowing them do, etc. This isn't just regarding vaccines; it's a parenting technique that ensures we are either on the same page, or we close the book for a time before we revisit. (Another great example is having certain people around our children. If I think someone gives off creeper vibes, why would my husband's yes to that person being around our child trump my hesitancy?) I have to be deferential to my husband's hesitancy as we both want what's best for our child.



Your statements are leading; it's a 1 yes 1 no for both getting the vaccine or not getting it but not getting it will not ensure that our child WILL get Covid, just as getting the vaccine will not ensure our child will NOT get it.



And for Tiger, either way there is the potential for blame. If we don't get her vaccinated and she contracts Covid, my husband takes the blame. If we do get her vaccinated and it turns out she has a reaction or whatever, I take the blame. If we're both on the same page, we share the blame regardless of the outcome. What we don't want is a situation where there is resentment on either side.

Thanks for sharing,

My thought is more around the active choice you are making regardless of what you chose to do. Either choice you make exposes your child to risk. It’s different from not leaving your child with a babysitter ones finds creepy because there the alternatives are find another babysitter or don’t go out.

In this case option 1 is get Covid without a vaccine, option 2 is get Covid with the risk and benefit of a vaccine. There is no option to not get Covid. So the choice of doing nothing doesn’t exist. I do assume that within the next year everyone gets Covid essentially on the same basis that everyone used to get chicken pox.

You know your Husband best and how to influence him so thank you for doing the hard work to get him to the point of getting vaccinated. It’s a hard thing to do and would likely be easier just to ignore it.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Knut

https://twitter.com/user/status/1462538031022358530

Does anyone have a non-Twitter source for this? 3MM vaccines with zero myocarditis is a big deal, and I'd like to pass that on to a couple of people, and the higher credibility the source the better.

[Knut]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1462924294514634752

[SportsJunky]

My 10 yr-old is booked for Friday. She's a little nervous. Hates needles.

[WinnipegFan]

Just a heads up I called 811 and they just told me that we don't actually have any of the child dosage in Alberta, and likely won't for about a week. The system accidentally allowed people to book in their kids briefly and these appointments will likely be cancelled. This is according to the nurse I just spoke to at the booking line.

[getbak]

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...cted-this-week

10% of 5-11 year-olds are already registered to get their first shot.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Knut

Yup.. About 50% . I am hoping my kids school is higher, but I doubt it. I want them to announce booking so I get them in ASAP. Ontario is opening it up for tomorrow morning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1462844188643315715

Christ shake, do these people understand anything about messaging, we just need to exclude antivaxers from 90% of society and pretend they don't exist.

They are like Santa Clause, if you stop talking about them you won't believe in them, if you don't believe in them all of their power goes away. But seriously if they didn't get so much media attention there would be far fewer of them, these sheep will hop on any bandwagon that defies authorities, but they need to know that the bandwagon is there.

[WinnipegFan]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...cted-this-week

10% of 5-11 year-olds are already registered to get their first shot.

I know I have been trying all day to get registered for my son. Hence my call. Just relaying what was told to me by the nurse at 811.

[Hockeyguy15]

They are doing kids 5 and up by birthday rather than calendar year? Not sure how my son with a Feb birthday would be any different getting his shot in January. Annoying.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Knut

Yup.. About 50% . I am hoping my kids school is higher, but I doubt it. I want them to announce booking so I get them in ASAP. Ontario is opening it up for tomorrow morning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1462844188643315715

50% vaccination rate in that age group would still be remarkable.

I think over time it should rise as well. I know lots of parents who said they'll wait and see how it goes, but plan to eventually get it done.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Azure

50% vaccination rate in that age group would still be remarkable.

I think over time it should rise as well. I know lots of parents who said they'll wait and see how it goes, but plan to eventually get it done.

Especially once they want to travel again to sunny destinations.

[Azure]

Anyone else waiting for the Novavax COVID vaccine to be approved in Canada and getting it as a booster?

I've had both Pfizer and I'm not eligible yet, but the data seems good.

The safety profile seems to be just as good as well.

[IliketoPuck]

Apologies if I've missed it somewhere, but is there a link to sign up kids for the vaccine? Or are we still waiting for an official announcement?

[Knut]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Apologies if I've missed it somewhere, but is there a link to sign up kids for the vaccine? Or are we still waiting for an official announcement?

https://bookvaccine.alberta.ca/vaccine/s/

Register your kids here today to help fast track booking.

Booking starts tomorrow most likely. Announcement @ 3:30

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Does anyone have a non-Twitter source for this? 3MM vaccines with zero myocarditis is a big deal, and I'd like to pass that on to a couple of people, and the higher credibility the source the better.

This is hard not knowing anything about this guy or tweet you're quoting, but this is an incredibly stupid statement for a supposed Dr. to be making at this point.

Myocarditis (and other issues) was typically occurring 7 days after a second dose of the mRNA vaccine. Obviously as we are only just starting some second doses in the states later this week, we are at least 10 days away from being able to evaluate these instances.

[WinnipegFan]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...cted-this-week

10% of 5-11 year-olds are already registered to get their first shot.

Also, if I understand the website correctly registering is not the same as having a booking for the shot. My kiddos are registered but I don't think we can book the shot as of yet. Hopefully we will hear at 3:30.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by Knut

https://bookvaccine.alberta.ca/vaccine/s/

Register your kids here today to help fast track booking.

Booking starts tomorrow most likely. Announcement @ 3:30

Thanks!

We went through the registration on the weekend, so should be good to go. Just wasn't sure if I'd missed the actual booking site.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Azure

Anyone else waiting for the Novavax COVID vaccine to be approved in Canada and getting it as a booster?

I've had both Pfizer and I'm not eligible yet, but the data seems good.

The safety profile seems to be just as good as well.

It's a shame it hasn't been used widely yet. Based on trial data it seemed to have the lowest adverse reactions while having high efficacy, but that's just trial data. We didn't know about any of the more serious adverse reactions in the other vaccines until they were put into use in the real world.

And supply is still going to be a huge issue for them. They're way behind on production and have run into pretty serious quality control issues, so I expect doses are going to be relatively scarce for a while. Eventually Canada will produce it domestically, but that's probably a little ways off still.

[getbak]

Kids 5-11 can start booking tomorrow morning for shots starting Friday.

You can pre-register them now to save some time when booking. Second shots for kids won't be booked before 8 weeks after their first.