2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I’m skeptical.

Character issues? How on earth would any of us know this? Do you know someone on the Kraken? Is that just one persons account? Have you heard about ‘character issues’ from several people who have first hand knowledge/experience?

Paulie is just making things up. If I remember right the main knock on him as the 1st overall was that he was a safe pick and might not have true #1 upside. If The Flames can swing him for a late 1st and decent prospect I'd be happy with it.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

3 teams passed a right shot C something everyone looks for. Even Utah took Cooley who is tracking better. Now the team that drafted him wants to dump him before he’s 22?

Again people are acting desperate for anything.

Just like wanting to trade for Cozens boat anchor contract because he’s big. A butter soft player and people want to trade our best trade chip for him.

Fair, but you could also look at a guy like Bennett who slid in his draft and he’s certainly not the only example. Did Bennett slide because of ‘character issues’ or is it more accurate to say he slid because the GM’s and scouts thought he simply wouldn’t be as good as those picked ahead of him despite what the majority of hockey journalists/fans/media thought. Given the mix at the top of this years draft it seems likely someone is going to slide, in the eyes of some, this year as well.

I just don’t think it’s all that insightful or wise to say a guy has character issues when, really, the vast majority people on this forum don’t know what they don’t know.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Paulie is just making things up. If I remember right the main knock on him as the 1st overall was that he was a safe pick and might not have true #1 upside. If The Flames can swing him for a late 1st and decent prospect I'd be happy with it.

I also believe Wright slipping also had to do with him, basically, missing a full year of competitive hockey during COVID. A lot of his peers found ice elsewhere where he sat tight thinking the OHL was coming back, if I recall correctly.

[Groot]

Seeing Wright's comments prior to the draft, coupled with him then falling a few spots, it's not hard to surmise character issues. Maybe he's grown since then, maybe not.

[Toonage]

Frank on 960 this morning talking Cozens, says the Flames have asked about him. Says the Sabres aren't interested in futures which makes this harder for the Flames.

Krebs is brought up, but Frank suggests thats less of an option (less interest).

[Leeman4Gilmour]

https://puckpedia.com/teams#trades

Ridley Grieg signed a 4 x $3.25MM. I think that might be a good Zary comparable for dollars if they want to bridge. Although, the Flames would have to go 3 years to not take Zary straight to UFA.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Frank on 960 this morning talking Cozens, says the Flames have asked about him. Says the Sabres aren't interested in futures which makes this harder for the Flames.

Krebs is brought up, but Frank suggests thats less of an option (less interest).

We've got Huby if they need help now.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Shazam

We've got Huby if they need help now.

My read is that they don't want picks and anyone we'd want to trade (or they may want) isn't approving a move. Thus the "harder" part IMO

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FanSince'01

He's played in every Wranglers game since November 5th. Reason why it's only 24 games is because he was with the Flames for October and spent a couple of weeks with that UBI as well before going down to the A.

Thanks that was a total brain fart by me.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Toonage

My read is that they don't want picks and anyone we'd want to trade (or they may want) isn't approving a move. Thus the "harder" part IMO

Yeah, I bet the Sabres would be all over Kadri

[Paulie Walnuts]

I would rather take a chance on a Shane Pinto 3.75 for next year, and he still has upside. Cozens has peaked and is signed long term.

Worst case Pinto is a 3rd liner and we get to sign him to a deal that pays him like 1.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Honzek probably goes lower in a re-draft at this point…

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

2nd round for sure or later but that would be the case for several 1st round picks with the benefit of hindsight.

Not sure that's true that he'd be second round or later.

One of only 10 guys to play an NHL game from that draft.

Guys like Sandin-Pellika, Bonk, Perreault, Molendyk, Musty and Ritchie and Cristall might move ahead of him.

But guys like Willander, But, Wood, and maybe even Simashev might drop below him.

His AHL production is right in line with guys taken around him in that draft...

Dvorsky: 0.78 P/GP
Nadeau: 0.67 P/GP
Danielson: 0.58 P/GP
Honzek: 0.58 P/GP
Sale: 0.57 P/GP

So not amazing production, but it's hard to produce in the AHL as a 20 year old.

[TheIronMaiden]

To Buffalo, Barrie, Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, and a 2nd
To Calgary Cozens.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

To Buffalo, Barrie, Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, and a 2nd
To Calgary Cozens.

Sharangovich is an interesting potential swap if the Sabres like his game. Barrie and Kuzmenko are going to end the year on the Flames lol

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pinto is actually so much better than Cozens to target. 52.2% CF and only 35% ozone starts and he is 52% on faceoffs. Craig is really big on faceoffs.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Not sure that's true that he'd be second round or later.

One of only 10 guys to play an NHL game from that draft.

Guys like Sandin-Pellika, Bonk, Perreault, Molendyk, Musty and Ritchie and Cristall might move ahead of him.

In the article I posted the main shifts are

- Perreault from 23 to 9 (most lists had him in that 9-12 range ahead of the draft. I further do wonder if there were concerns about a Canadian team signing him. I just find it funny he somehow fell to NYR)
- ASP from 17 to 11
- Ritchie from 27 to 13
- Edstrom from 32 to 14 (I would still take Honzek over him)
- Bonk from 22 to 16 (I would still take Honzek over him)
- Rehkopf from 50 to 17
- Brindely from 34 to 20

Players that drop in the rankings to after Honzek
- Yager from 14 to 22
- Wood from 15 to 27

So that's how it shakes out.
And honestly with all those guys, there's not a lot of difference between them at this stage. I would say the guys, for me, that I would clearly draft ahead of Honzek now woud be ASP, Ritchie and Perreault (ignoring any signability issues).

[Niemo]

Conroy wanting to push for the playoffs is troubling to me. F.....we aren't beating Vegas or any of the top 4 teams in a 7 game series (1% chance tops).

Buffalo not wanting futures for Cozens is good for us if Conroy and Edwards wasn't pushing for the playoffs...... We really need a losing streak badly here.

Rasmus Andersson + Kadri + Henry Mews???
for
Elias Pettersson

Sharangovich + Miromanov + Pospisil
for
Cozens

Vladar for anyone's 3rd

Rooney, Kuzmenko, Barrie for any low pick we can get.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by DJones

Honzek is untradable.

He hasn't shown anything yet but the mix of size and skill is incredibly appealing. No one will give you what hes worth to the Flames.

Looks like people are taking to speaking in absolutes today without actually knowing anything other than their best guess.

I don’t think any of us know what the Flames would want for Honzek but saying he’s untradable seems to be laying it on a little thick. That would be like St.Louis saying Dalibor Dvorsky is untradablable or Utah with Daniel But. Truthfully, we have no idea.

Essentially what you’re saying is that there is no other prospect the Flames would consider trading Honzek for. If Utah offered Tij Iginla for Honzek, you think Conroy would say no? I would find that hard to believe.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Conroy wanting to push for the playoffs is troubling to me. F.....we aren't beating Vegas or any of the top 4 teams in a 7 game series (1% chance tops).

Buffalo not wanting futures for Cozens is good for us if Conroy and Edwards wasn't pushing for the playoffs...... We really need a losing streak badly here.

Rasmus Andersson + Kadri + Henry Mews???
for
Elias Pettersson

Sharangovich + Miromanov + Pospisil
for
Cozens

Vladar for anyone's 3rd

Rooney, Kuzmenko, Barrie for any low pick we can get.

Wait when did it come out that we are pushing for the playoffs?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Wait when did it come out that we are pushing for the playoffs?

Unshakable internal narrative.