They were all cowards. Dude spent 30 seconds pushing women and acting the fool before he got knocked out. A genuine group of goofs.
Yeah, I really don't have any pity for him. He was trying to hurt people and got knocked out. Maybe next time he will think twice before trying to cause a ruckus.
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Yeah good on the guy who knocked him out. The old guy was attacking people non-discriminately (well...) after he stomped on some guy on the ground who he shoved from behind. He was looking to hurt someone, glad it ended up being him instead and it was one punch, then walk away when he was out when others could have jumped on old guy like he did to microphone dude.
EDIT: It's the kicker while the guy was knocked to the ground that was a coward, like the old guy.
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Wondering if anyone here reads Heather Cox Richardson
She is a historian and professor and provides daily commentary
She pens “letters from an American” which one could get emailed, view on Facebook, and is reposted by Bill Moyers among others
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November 14, 2020 (Saturday)...
(Recap of day’s event w context) ...
“The duty of a president is to protect the national security of the United States, and this is the most prominent disease of mass destruction America’s ever faced, and we have a commander in chief who has run away from the problem and has made it worse,” Jack Chow, a U.S. health official under George W. Bush, told reporters from the Washington Post. “We had an opportunity twice over the past eight months to bring it down to safer levels, and we failed. We are on the verge of losing control of this pandemic.”
And yet, most Republican lawmakers are not willing to challenge Trump in public.
Indeed, in his willingness to abandon governance for his own benefit Trump is simply following the lead of Republican lawmakers like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) who has steadfastly refused to take up bills from the Democratic-led House of Representatives, including a coronavirus relief package to address the coronavirus recession. Instead, McConnell has focused on packing the courts with pro-business judges. Excerpts from a new book by former President Barack Obama, due out next week, reveal McConnell’s response to a plea from then-Vice President Biden to pass a worthwhile bill. McConnell answered: “You must be under the mistaken impression that I care.”
Today’s Republican Party has traveled a long way from the party of Abraham Lincoln.
In the 1850s, the Republican Party rose to stand against a small group of wealthy southern white slaveholders who had taken over the government. Those slaveholders made up only about 1% of the American South. They ran the Democratic Party, but they knew their system of human enslavement was unpopular and that they were in a political minority even in the Democratic Party. It was only a question of time until the majority began to hem in their ownership of other human beings.
So when folks started to urge the government to promote infrastructure in the growing nation, building roads or dredging harbors, for example, these southern leaders worried that if the government began to intervene in the economy, the regulation of slavery would be just around the corner. They pushed back by insisting that the government could do nothing that was not expressly written in the Constitution. Even if the vast majority of the people in the country wanted the government to do something, it could not.
As pressure grew for government to promote economic growth for ordinary Americans, the southern slaveholders worked to cement their power. They courted poor white voters, telling them that any attempt to regulate slavery was an effort to lift Black people over them. From their stronghold in the Senate, southern leaders stopped legislation to develop the country and instead pushed laws that spread slavery into the West. When northerners objected, southern leaders packed the Supreme Court and got it to agree that Congress could not stop the spread of southern slavery even across the entire nation. But while they insisted the federal government could not promote the economy for ordinary Americans, they demanded a sweeping federal slave code to protect slavery in the West.
Their system was best for the nation, they explained. Society was made up of a mass of workers, drudges who weren’t terribly smart, but were strong and loyal. They were the “mudsills” of society, akin to the wood hammered into the ground that supported the grand plantation homes above. Directed by their betters, these mudsills produced capital, which accumulated in the hands of the wealthy. There, it did far more good than if it were distributed among those who had produced it, because society’s leaders used their wealth to innovate and build the economy, doing what was best for the workers, who could not understand their own interests. The nation thrived.
To secure this system, though, it was imperative that the mudsills could not vote. If they could, workers would demand more of the wealth they produced. White southerners had enslaved their laborers, South Carolina Senator James Henry Hammond told his northern colleagues in 1858, but northerners had not, and they foolishly allowed them to vote. “If they knew the tremendous secret, that the ballot-box is stronger than "an army with banners," and could combine, where would you be?” Hammond demanded. “Your society would be reconstructed, your government overthrown, your property divided… by the quiet process of the ballot-box.”
Men like Abraham Lincoln organized to overturn the idea that they were mindless workers, doomed to menial labor for life. In 1859, Lincoln articulated a new vision for the nation, putting ordinary men, rather than elite slaveholders, at the heart of national development.
Lincoln’s “Free Labor” theory held that the nation worked best when the government supported ordinary men rather than a wealthy elite. Ordinary men worked more intelligently and innovated more freely than an elite, and when the government used its power to free up resources for them, they built the economy far more efficiently than the enslaved workers who were hampered by the commands of an out-of-touch plantation owner. Rather than shunning economic development, the government should embrace it, they said, spreading free labor, rather than slavery, across the West.
When Lincoln won the 1860 election, southern leaders refused to accept the results of the election. They left the Union to launch a new nation that rejected the idea of human equality and was instead based on human enslavement.
Left in charge of the government, the new Republican Party rebuilt it according to Lincoln’s vision. To pay the enormous cost of the Civil War, they invented our first national system of taxation, including the income tax. Then, to enable people to pay those taxes, they spread opportunity to ordinary men, giving them western land (that we now recognize belonged to indigenous people), establishing our state universities, and building a railroad to take people across the country. Ultimately, they included Black men in their vision, abolishing slavery, establishing Black citizenship, and guaranteeing Black men the right to vote so they could protect their own interests.
Under the leadership of the Republican Party, Americans were, Lincoln reminded them, resolving “that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
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Unemployment rate calculates the percentage of people not working but are willing, able, and are actively seeking work. Many people who would like to work but cannot (due to a disability, for example), or have become discouraged after looking for work without success, are not considered unemployed under this system. Since they are not employed either, they are categorized as outside the labor force and don't count at all in the equation.
Say we have 100 people, 90 are working, and 10 are on EI. So unemployment is 10/100=10%
Let's say 5 of them go past EI and can no longer claim. Then they are taken out of both numerator and denominator. So the rate is now 5/95 = 5.2%.
Ok, but I am not convinced that discouraged unemployment occurs the moment EI runs out or that 2016 represents an anomaly in that respect. Every unemployment statistic in the past would be subject to the same aberrations. The thing that changed was that those people suddenly had a nationalist presidential candidate that was able to focus their anxiety on external threats. The hatred was there and Trump tapped into it. It's time to stop making excuses for the deplorables.
Ultimately, it is the economic system that they wanted. They can blame politicians all they want, but they are getting what they asked for. A system that benefits those in power and leaves others behind. They just never expected it to be them.
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lol a Canadian who casually watched the apprentice from time to time I am part of the problem! I didn't vote for that asshat
I'm just giving you a hard time because it was...wait I never watched the show because I thought he was a complete fraud then. I did have a roommate that tuned in though.
Also fun fact...a girl we knew got selected for a Nielsen box back in the day...in Calgary. She loved the Bachelor, and it always made me laugh that she was the one getting put in the ratings. Trump brags about ratings to this day, if people tuned the guy out he wouldn't have made it to where he was.
Anyway...how can any one that watched the apprentice and breathed life into Trump not feel a little responsible for what happened?
Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, a Republican, says he expects Joe Biden to be the next president of the United States.
Speaking on NBC on Sunday, Hutchinson said that it is very important that Biden has access to intelligence briefings.
“It is very important that Joe Biden have access to the intelligence briefings, to make sure that he is prepared during times of transition our enemies have an opportunity to try to take advantage of us, and we want to make sure that there is a smooth transition, particularly when it comes to the vaccine distribution or coronavirus that everybody understands what we're doing there and what the plan is for the future,” Hutchinson said.
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“It is important that we accept the outcome of the election. And there's a process to get there it is. There are some constitutional assertions in Pennsylvania. There's a recount in Georgia, it is important that those processes go through and that probably is the reason you, the President does not want to undermine those legitimate processes by jumping ahead and conceding the election, but we still have to start that to transition in the end, you're absolutely right. We need to come together as a nation,” Hutchinson added.
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Reports that around 20 people were arrested today in DC during clashes between pro-Trump, "Stop the Steal" supporters on one side and people against them on the other. The level of hate these groups have for each other is off the charts. Spoiler for violence.
Having watched a bunch of video of fights etc. from that event, that girl with the pink shoes and pink lining on her jacket seemed to be involved repeatedly in conflicts in a pretty aggressive and antagonistic way, including towards old and non-threatening people. She also steals that guy's phone right after he gets knocked out in the video here.
Pretty sure she was among those arrested later, which is good. Regardless of which group they're a part of, people acting that way need to be arrested and the public should be made aware that they're being arrested and prosecuted. All that sort of stuff does is widen the divide between people.
Biden and Harris have a tough job ahead of them in aiming to unify the US.
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Having watched a bunch of video of fights etc. from that event, that girl with the pink shoes and pink lining on her jacket seemed to be involved repeatedly in conflicts in a pretty aggressive and antagonistic way, including towards old and non-threatening people. She also steals that guy's phone right after he gets knocked out in the video here.
Pretty sure she was among those arrested later, which is good. Regardless of which group they're a part of, people acting that way need to be arrested and the public should be made aware that they're being arrested and prosecuted. All that sort of stuff does is widen the divide between people.
Biden and Harris have a tough job ahead of them in aiming to unify the US.
Same thing was said about Obama. Why is it that the democrats always have to try to unify the country after Republicans spend 4-8 years making things worse?
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Same thing was said about Obama. Why is it that the democrats always have to try to unify the country after Republicans spend 4-8 years making things worse?
Well, it's just what Biden has been emphasizing. It was maybe the main thing that he emphasized in his victory speech. If it's what he wants to do, it's not going to be easy.
Also, it's something the country would really benefit from. Being so divided is hurting the country.
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Same thing was said about Obama. Why is it that the democrats always have to try to unify the country after Republicans spend 4-8 years making things worse?
Because the number of Bernie / AOC democrats is small and they don’t live in the right places and they don’t have the senate.
If you had the Senate you could be more aggressive in unilaterally implementing policy but without it you have to get to work.
