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Old 08-05-2021, 11:06 AM   #601
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Why is it that when I see this all I can think of is that they need to have a pulpit on the roof for Sutter to deliver pre-game speeches to the gathering masses and long red banners coming down the side of the building with the Flaming C logo on them....
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One thing to note about the parkade façade, on the elevation drawings, the blank wall facing 14th Avenue is designated as artwork space. When the building is complete, there will likely be a mural of some sort along the parkade wall, so it won't be a giant grey blank.
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One thing to note about the parkade façade, on the elevation drawings, the blank wall facing 14th Avenue is designated as artwork space. When the building is complete, there will likely be a mural of some sort along the parkade wall, so it won't be a giant grey blank.
If they hung those big player banners on there to advertise the team, I'd be ok with that.
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Why is it that when I see this all I can think of is that they need to have a pulpit on the roof for Sutter to deliver pre-game speeches to the gathering masses and long red banners coming down the side of the building with the Flaming C logo on them....
Why are you commenting on my elevation? You’re not a billion dollar stadium Architect.
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Got it....

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Why are you commenting on my elevation? You’re not a billion dollar stadium Architect.
You dont know that. I might be. In my spare time.
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Got it....
Thats it...
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Officially naming topfive's render the Scotiabank Fuhrerdome
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Symmetry. Oh the horror.
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What intersection would that be?
That's looking at the SE corner of the building, so the intersection of 14th Ave and 5th st I believe.
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You might reich this one better Locke.

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Locke,Toonage and Cro....you guys are doing it wrong.
This is a serious place..... no funny stuff here eh?

Love it......keep it up....we need more of this.

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You might reich this one better Locke.

While I may be a Billion Dollar Architect in my spare time, what I am not is a Photoshop Guru....so get some some red flags with the Flaming C on them hanging there.
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Heard the guys on the Fan this morning claiming the Gaudreau/Tkatchuk dynasty was so strong that 'it would last a thousand years'.
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While I may be a Billion Dollar Architect in my spare time, what I am not is a Photoshop Guru....so get some some red flags with the Flaming C on them hanging there.
Not until you pay your invoice.
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Not until you pay your invoice.
I didnt get to where I am today by writing a lot of cheques!
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Besides being pretty bland, it seems clear that the "Arena District" is in tough before it gets started. That is a ton of blank frontage all around and it's going to make for dead streets. It's a shame, as this was a chance to provide a lively corridor connecting BMO, the East Village and 17th.
The street design matters a lot, but ultimately it boils down to location. This location is a very marginal improvement over the Saddledome.

The CP tracks, and to a lesser extent the LRT east of Macleod Tr are major barriers to connecting vibrant pockets.

Stampede and Victoria Park are actually well placed for Siege defense. Bounded on the south and east by a river, the north by CP tracks, and the west by Macleod Tr/LRT. The access points are limited, often bottlenecks, and there just isn't much organic flow.

The 17 Ave level crossing/LRT station redesign will help a bit, but the arena placement was an opportunity to really break down one of those barriers.
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When I look at this I think of how Nenshi’s mandate was, public money <-> public benefit. I don’t see it yet, but that’s the point I guess. Improve it!

To me it seems like they’ve botched the engagement on this by dropping images that leave more questions than answers about how this is the centerpiece of an entertainment district.
With the removal of CMLC, it's hard to see improvement with these concerns


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The roofline is problematic too, but, yeah I was surprised when I did the overlay and they match up almost exactly. Even the sizes of the upper and lower bowls seem to be about the same size as the original Saddledome layout.

By my count, the lower bowl of the new arena will be about 28 rows and the upper bowl will be about 14 rows.

The only significant difference between the original Saddledome seating layout and the new arena's layout is that the Saddledome's suite level was/is at the very top of the upper bowl. In the new arena, the suite level will be between the two main seating bowls.
There are a few 'super suites' in Dome's the upper area, but the typical suites are all between the two bowls...

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How do you know the “objective issues” aren’t just subjective issues?

Having looked at the RDMP, and trusting CMLC with the vision for the area, I don’t see a problem, nor do I see how they’ve neglected 75% of the exterior space. Did you even look at the renders? Because I would look again. There is maybe one corner that I’d consider a bit of a waste, but we’ll see what happens.

Again, that’s why some opinions mean the same as any others regardless of their profession. Objective issues? Yeah, that’s not what we’re talking about here, but “professionals” who designed a strip mall once would have you believe otherwise.
But their influence is significantly reduced now.

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