[GT] Flames @ Jets

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Blame Treliving all you want but when's the last time ownership has been willing to pay a top coach? From my memory, the answer is never

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they back the truck up for Brent Sutter? I seem to remember him coaching team Canada (Juniors IIRC) and a lot of teams wanting him, then Calgary going hard after him? I could be wrong though, I'm forgetful.

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

You can see how teams play against us with no Benny. Everyone is taking chances and feeling good. When he’s out there defenceman and play makers in the neutral zone have their heads in a swivel looking for Benny.

This team is fragile.

I think you're overstating the impact Bennett has. They might have their head on a swivel waiting for the inevitable giveaway of the puck when he has it.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Brouwer can’t afford a flipper?

Winter teeth

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

When did they become so slow? Seems like nobody on this team can skate in the big leagues.

Everyone is slow when they are standing still

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Bennett is probably watching this with a sense of relief from being on the way out

Doubt it, those are his friends in there. Probably feeling a bit sad and disappointed I am sure!

[nik-]

It would honestly be nice to blow out the entire front office. But that would require an owner that has any clue of what's going on with the club. We don't have that so basically we're ####ed.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Flame On

What's the same, the number one goalie that's brand new to the team, or myriad other players that are brand new? I mean I know it's always the players fault even when they haven't played for the team before, but seriously.

Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Giordano. The core has remained largely intact. The last time they shook it up was swapping Hamilton for Lindholm and they finished 2nd in the entire NHL that season. Other than that it’s been largely the same core for years.

I’m not advocating a trade, I’m not saying to blow it up, but maybe we should all just accept that our core is mediocre and inconsistent. We don’t know what we’re getting every night.

We’ve also seen huge decreases in quality from some veteran depth guys like Backlund. I think we need to adjust our expectations.

It’s still early, but nothing that’s happening is surprising anymore. They’re a bubble team.

[chedder]

That's a depressing bench look

[motorcrosser]

Taxi squad thinking right now.. welp, its not our fault.

[Titan]

Originally Posted by motorcrosser

Backlund dumps it in a lot.

Well, this didn't age well...

[neo45]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they back the truck up for Brent Sutter? I seem to remember him coaching team Canada (Juniors IIRC) and a lot of teams wanting him, then Calgary going hard after him? I could be wrong though, I'm forgetful.

Ya Sutter was coming off of a successful run as NJ coach so he would have been paid well. Devils wanted him to stay

Also Peters likely wasn’t a bargain bin hire. Hartley, Gultuzan, and Ward likely were amongst the cheapest in the league by design

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

It’s the climate of these guys. They are ok with mediocrity and know how to grease the wheels of the mediocre machine. Meanwhile fans at one time payed 10 bucks a beer to watch mediocrity year after year. One year 3 prairie boys and a finish goalie did their best. In 89 a real good team were gifted a path to the finals by Steve smith.

Smith scored on his own net in '86.

[TheIronMaiden]

Bennett may have Derek England levels of finish, but atleast he cuts hard to the net now and then. Mangiapane is the only other Flame who does such. This is a perimeter team.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The team looks exactly the same as last game when he played.

I disagree but I see Logan Stanley making moves,as a rookie, to avoid forcheckers. No way he’s that confident with Benny out there.

It’s the small things.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

You can see how teams play against us with no Benny. Everyone is taking chances and feeling good. When he’s out there defenceman and play makers in the neutral zone have their heads in a swivel looking for Benny.

My goodness. The myth of Bennett continues to grow. Doesn't he average like 2 hits a game? Teams aren't scared of Sam Bennett.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Ward’s breakout is slow by design. It allows the opposition to take their ideal defensive positioning, meaning they get to play defence exactly how they want. Every play is challenged, there’s no open ice resulting in players making ugly plays while under pressure.

Geoff Ward is the worst coaching hire this organization has made.

God I would have loved to have seen this team with a good coach just once before this roster’s cycle comes to a close, but that hope is gone.

Also, the forward depth is complete junk - so that’s on Tree, as is the Ward hire.

That’s the thing, it’s not just on Ward, and the players need to own it too. But Ward clearly isn’t the solution.

It’s so frustrating that Treliving was given a free mulligan after the Peters thing, and what we saw from Ward in the playoffs and he didn’t take it.

He could have went and hired Boudreau or somebody but no he decided to go with the same staff we had the last two seasons that hadn’t had an answer since the 18-19 all star break.

And I don’t care that Ward wasn’t the head coach then. When 4/5 coaches are still the same coaches then it’s the same staff and message.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by New Era

Smith scored on his own net in '86.

Thx. We still went to the finals though.

[motorcrosser]

Just light up my little red light once so I can see if it works

[Moneyhands23]

The flames look like they all own game stop shares

#diamondhands

[Mitt31]

Let’s give GM to Mad Mike Milbury

We will be terrible in 3 years but we will definitely have a new team

Could be fun