03-02-2021, 10:24 AM
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#601
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Friedman insists on using the wrong abbreviation.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-02-2021, 10:30 AM
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#602
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Ryan always struck me as one of those hard working, earn his place on the team by taking care of the details sort of players. Makes sense that he doesn't fit with the team anymore.
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That guy... he is not our kind of guy...
Not the sort we want at the country club. That's why we have the rules about not letting in Ryan's and Jews...
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03-02-2021, 10:32 AM
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#603
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
That guy... he is not our kind of guy...
Not the sort we want at the country club. That's why we have the rules about not letting in Ryan's and Jews...
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Hey! You leave the Jews out of this! This isnt their fight!
They are a historically successful people! Unlike the Calgary Flames....
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If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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03-02-2021, 10:38 AM
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#604
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Hey! You leave the Jews out of this! This isnt their fight!
They are a historically successful people! Unlike the Calgary Flames....
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Right, that's why we can't have them - won't fit in. And the Ryan's - too hard-working, all gross and sweaty.
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03-02-2021, 10:39 AM
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#605
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Can we start with small steps?
Like, not playing Nordstrom ever again?
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03-02-2021, 10:42 AM
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#606
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Ryan always struck me as one of those hard working, earn his place on the team by taking care of the details sort of players. Makes sense that he doesn't fit with the team anymore.
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Ryan strikes me as an overpaid, soft 4th liner that doesn't move the needle in any particular way. Unless you count faceoffs being worthy of his 3.125M cap hit.
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03-02-2021, 11:57 AM
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#607
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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So where at we at here? Have we arrived at a consensus?
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This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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03-02-2021, 12:19 PM
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#608
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Franchise Player
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nm
Last edited by Manhattanboy; 03-02-2021 at 12:22 PM.
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03-02-2021, 12:24 PM
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#609
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
So where at we at here? Have we arrived at a consensus?
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-02-2021, 12:31 PM
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#610
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Blow it all up. Build a team that works hard and plays fast every night. I don't care about losses if the team plays hard every night even if they lose.
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03-02-2021, 01:25 PM
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#612
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Franchise Player
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This team should have been tanking hard in 2015 and 2016. Early in the rebuilding years and McDavid and Matthews were in reach. But nooooo, Hartley had to have these guys revved up and busting their balls, ekeing into the playoffs on the back of a bunch of improbable come backs.
"...but this hard work and winning attitude will pay dividends down the road for the young core"
Oh really? lol
The hard working, never give up, winning attitude seems to have evaporated into thin air.
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03-02-2021, 01:28 PM
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#613
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by nik-
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I admire your commitment with the avatar change and everything.
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The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
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03-02-2021, 01:41 PM
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#614
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sketchyt
Can we start with small steps?
Like, not playing Nordstrom ever again?
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The reality is that nothing short of a significant change to the core is going to get this team out of its perennial mediocrity. I would even go as far as asking Gio to hand over his captaincy (yes, I went there). There's a leadership issue here and you have to start looking squarely at the captain if you're going to change the culture in a meaningful way.
The following are options that need to be considered:
Solution 1: Get Bennett off this roster ASAP. He's completely useless and likely not helping the locker room at all with his complete disinterest, lazy play and seemingly preferential treatment for no apparent reason.
Solution 2: Make a trade to shake up the core. The season is already lost so you might as well start laying the groundwork for next year and beyond. Even if the ship is righted in 2021, we all know deep down this group isn't going to have the jam to fight it's way through any playoff adversity.
Solution 3: Ignore solution #2 and fire Ward and his staff now. I don't like the fact this gives the players yet another hall pass, but it would be the spineless, short sighted move that likely saves Treliving's job for the time being provided he replaces Ward with someone who has more pull than the current staff (Budreau, Daryll, Julien etc).
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03-02-2021, 01:42 PM
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#615
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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I nominate the Canucks to take Lindholm off the Flames hands.
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THANK MR DEMKOCPHL Ottawa Vancouver
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03-02-2021, 01:44 PM
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#616
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
I nominate the Canucks to take Lindholm off the Flames hands.
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You can have Leivo back. Merry Christmas.
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03-02-2021, 01:45 PM
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#617
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
You can have Leivo back. Merry Christmas.
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THANK MR DEMKOCPHL Ottawa Vancouver
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03-02-2021, 01:51 PM
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#618
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
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Hopefully he takes the coach with him.
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03-02-2021, 02:06 PM
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#619
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Franchise Player
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Is is CAL or CGY?
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03-02-2021, 02:19 PM
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#620
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
The reality is that nothing short of a significant change to the core is going to get this team out of its perennial mediocrity. I would even go as far as asking Gio to hand over his captaincy (yes, I went there). There's a leadership issue here and you have to start looking squarely at the captain if you're going to change the culture in a meaningful way.
The following are options that need to be considered:
Solution 1: Get Bennett off this roster ASAP. He's completely useless and likely not helping the locker room at all with his complete disinterest, lazy play and seemingly preferential treatment for no apparent reason.
Solution 2: Make a trade to shake up the core. The season is already lost so you might as well start laying the groundwork for next year and beyond. Even if the ship is righted in 2021, we all know deep down this group isn't going to have the jam to fight it's way through any playoff adversity.
Solution 3: Ignore solution #2 and fire Ward and his staff now. I don't like the fact this gives the players yet another hall pass, but it would be the spineless, short sighted move that likely saves Treliving's job for the time being provided he replaces Ward with someone who has more pull than the current staff (Budreau, Daryll, Julien etc).
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I’d like to see all three + Tre.
Have Tre fire Ward, it’s his mess. Then bring in an interim GM and coach - maybe D Sutter could be a 2021 Al MacNeil to hold the Fort for the season (maybe more). I do feel this team is a bit like that 2001-2 Flames. Some good players but they sure are discombobulated.
Take the time to get a great GM who can then hire a great coach.
Give us fast hard working hockey in the meantime, while they get the group sorted.
There. No intentional tank necessary.
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