06-23-2015, 02:25 PM
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#601
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Better to sign Dubnyk rather than giving up picks for Talbot, no?
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Yeah, for sure. I've got to think Treliving is exploring upgrading our goalies since he doesn't seem to have any interest in bringing back Ramo and I haven't heard any praise for Hiller as a #1.
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06-23-2015, 02:27 PM
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#602
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by TOfan
Otherwise, yes, I will concede that Kessels contract makes him difficult to move.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
contrary to popular belief the Leafs aren't simply looking to dump him, they're looking to leverage this asset into piece(s) that will move their organization forward.
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Your posts are funny when they're put back to back.
Rah rah rah Flames fans are stupid for thinking Kessel will be tough to move, everyone wants an elite goal scorer, but yes I'll concede he'll be tough to move because of his contract.
Rah rah rah there you Flames fans go again saying he'll be tough to move, contrary to popular belief the Leafs will be looking to get valuable assets back, but you Flames fans can't get that through your thick skulls, we're talking an elite talent here, but again yes I realize that contract will be tough to move.
Last edited by jayswin; 06-23-2015 at 02:30 PM.
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06-23-2015, 02:30 PM
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#603
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by codynw
Depends on his contract, and whether last year was a fluke or not. Unless he's willing to take a one or two year deal, it's too risky IMO.
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I think it was the one bad year that was the fluke and after years with the Oil it's no wonder he eventually gave up.
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06-23-2015, 02:32 PM
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#604
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Rangers turned down 2 2nd rounders for Talbot. I wonder what team offered that? Flames? Oilers?
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I would not be happy to hear they gave up 2 2nds for Talbot.
But let's assume for the sake of argument that they offered the 52nd and 53rd...
The fact is that if you got a Talbot out of those two picks, you did well. And you got to avoid years of development time as well.
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06-23-2015, 02:33 PM
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#605
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Yeah no, if the 2 second rounders aren't enough then we don't need Talbot. Does anyone know what the rumored asking price for Robin Lehner is?
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06-23-2015, 02:35 PM
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#606
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Franchise Player
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I'd rather use those 2nds to grab a forward or defenseman in a trade rather than a goalie. Like others said, just sign Dubnyk in FA if we need a goalie.
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06-23-2015, 02:40 PM
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#607
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Two 2nd round picks for an undrafted goaltender that was a backup on one of the elite defensive teams in the league? Pass as we have seen this play out poorly up north and while the guy looked great in a small sample on a very good defensive team two 2nd round picks is major overpayment for a guy the same age as Ramo but more of an unknown.
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06-23-2015, 02:45 PM
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#608
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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There are those in Chicago that wouldn't mind seeing Crawford's $6million contract moved...and HIS resume is better than Talbot's, Lehner's, Anderson's, or Dubnyk's...
I would be surprised if some goaltender deficient teams GMs don't, at least, enquire...
Frankly, there is confidence that our system can survive with a Darling or Raanta, in net...
Myself, I feel, and have always said, that Crawford is simply a big, positional, goaltender...he does battle well, but, doesn't seem better at any technical aspect of goaltending, than others...his mental toughness, however, is now beyond question...
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06-23-2015, 02:47 PM
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#609
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: the RR diner
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Dubnyk will demand money and term. I think the Flames should stay away. May as well just sign Ramo if they want to go down that route. If a better option than Hiller can't be had for a reasonable trade price, stick with him.
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06-23-2015, 02:47 PM
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#610
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Franchise Player
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The Flames offering two valuable 2nd round picks for a UFA goaltender who has less than 60 games under his belt, who will be 28 in a matter of weeks, doesn't make any sense.
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06-23-2015, 02:49 PM
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#611
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefoss1957
There are those in Chicago that wouldn't mind seeing Crawford's $6million contract moved...and HIS resume is better than Talbot's, Lehner's, Anderson's, or Dubnyk's...
I would be surprised if some goaltender deficient teams GMs don't, at least, enquire...
Frankly, there is confidence that our system can survive with a Darling or Raanta, in net...
Myself, I feel, and have always said, that Crawford is simply a big, positional, goaltender...he does battle well, but, doesn't seem better at any technical aspect of goaltending, than others...his mental toughness, however, is now beyond question...
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I was thinking about Crawford. Price is going to be too high for the Flames liking I think. Unless your team just wants to clear that cap.
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06-23-2015, 02:56 PM
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#612
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
The Flames offering two valuable 2nd round picks for a UFA goaltender who has less than 60 games under his belt, who will be 28 in a matter of weeks, doesn't make any sense.
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He's not a UFA. He is signed for next season at a very cap-friendly $1.45 million (not that that makes it make more sense for the Flames since next year's cap isn't likely a problem, but it's a good reason for the Rangers to be asking for more).
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Last edited by getbak; 06-23-2015 at 02:59 PM.
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06-23-2015, 02:57 PM
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#613
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Price is going to the Flames
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This is all I saw in your post
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06-23-2015, 03:02 PM
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#614
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
He's not a UFA. He is signed for next season at a very cap-friendly $1.45 million (not that that makes it make more sense for the Flames since next year's cap isn't likely a problem, but it's a good reason for the Rangers to be asking for more).
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He's a UFA on July 1, 2016, and he can't be re-signed until January 1, 2016.
That seems like it would be an unbelievably stupid risk to take for a rebuilding team. Only one guaranteed season.
And the Flames should have no care for his cap hit this coming season since we have some $20 million in cap space.
Last edited by Ashasx; 06-23-2015 at 03:07 PM.
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06-23-2015, 03:07 PM
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#615
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Could it be a team like Chicago.
Move Crawford, get a younger goalie, and try to resign him for cheaper then the $6 million you pay Crawford.
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06-23-2015, 03:17 PM
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#616
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Just a reminder, Agostino had 26 points in his final 22 games last year. If that's the Agostino we get next year, he's not even close in trade value to the great Ben Hanowski.
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It's a big season for both Agostino and Arnold. They'll both be 23 for the entire year, if they don't make a push for a spot next season I don't think you give them another NHL deal summer 2016.
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06-23-2015, 03:30 PM
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#617
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
The Flames offering two valuable 2nd round picks for a UFA goaltender who has less than 60 games under his belt, who will be 28 in a matter of weeks, doesn't make any sense.
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None of this makes any sense. The Flames aren't on the verge of winning a cup. This nonsense of trading multiple draft picks or signing UFA goaltenders to long term deals IMO is ludicrous as the team is in a good position with one more affordable year on Hiller and should simply keep their picks/prospects and go into next season with Hiller and Ortio. I don't see things being any worse than last season which was good enough to make the playoffs with. If Ortio turns into the real deal then they can cast aside Hiller and move on with Ortio and a placeholder backup in 2016.
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06-23-2015, 03:38 PM
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#618
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Hudler doesn't wear socks with dress shoes. Need to ship him out of town before that attitude spreads to the young guys.
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06-23-2015, 03:40 PM
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#619
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Agreed with EE. I don't understand the rumours of Lehner or Talbot to the Flames. We have a decent starter in Hiller, and even though I would prefer Ramo, we can let him walk and they are close to a wash. Ortio has shown to be capable in limited time with potential to take over as starter. Just seems odd to be searching for a back up unless it is someone to push Gillies in the AHL, neither of which are these guys.
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06-23-2015, 03:40 PM
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#620
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Hudler doesn't wear socks with dress shoes. Need to ship him out of town before that attitude spreads to the young guys.
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It looks like he thinks outside of the socks.
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