06-23-2015, 01:52 PM
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#581
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
Any chance of getting anything for Ramo's rights? late round pick and an AHler?
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Don't think there is any point at this stage. Teams can talk to UFAs on Thursday.
Doubtful anyone will trade for essentially 24 hours of an exclusive negotiating window.
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06-23-2015, 01:53 PM
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#582
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
Any chance of getting anything for Ramo's rights? late round pick and an AHler?
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no
only the most desired UFAs will garner a return just for the rights to talk to them.
There will be multiple goalies on the free agent market this summer
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06-23-2015, 01:53 PM
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#583
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
Any chance of getting anything for Ramo's rights? late round pick and an AHler?
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Doubtful. He's no Jay Bouwmeester.
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06-23-2015, 01:56 PM
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#584
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
He scored 25 goals last season. He was 46th in points. His -34 rating was 880th best. And he has a massive contract. Let's not get carried away.
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The Leafs were a disaster last year, and that starts with management.
Aside from that, Kessel has scored 30-37 goals a year since he was 21 (scored at a 34 goal pace in the shortened season). That's world class. full stop. how many is he going to put up if he gets to play on a team with some legitimate playmakers? 50-60?
Lets not forget what Kessel had accomplished previous to last year, and is likely to repeat.
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06-23-2015, 01:58 PM
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#585
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by ClubFlames
TOFan is just hilarious. Keeps defending Kessel saying he's an elite talent and blah blah then he says Leafs should look at a trade for Alexander Semin who has been called out by media/coaches for being the laziest player ever.
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missed it, didn't ya?
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06-23-2015, 02:01 PM
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#586
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
The Leafs were a disaster last year, and that starts with management.
Aside from that, Kessel has scored 30-37 goals a year since he was 21 (scored at a 34 goal pace in the shortened season). That's world class. full stop. how many is he going to put up if he gets to play on a team with some legitimate playmakers? 50-60?
Lets not forget what Kessel had accomplished previous to last year, and is likely to repeat.
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lol - exactly what I was referring to above.
It clearly hasn't occurred to you, but the flip-side of the 'he had Bozak as a C' argument is that he also got cart blanche to play nothing but pure offense. He also got 1st line PP duty all season.
The weak C argument is vastly overdone - he was given as big of a green light offensively as is possible.
On a real team that actually tries to WIN games, there is also a thing called defensive responsibility
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06-23-2015, 02:04 PM
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#587
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Aside from that, Kessel has scored 30-37 goals a year since he was 21 (scored at a 34 goal pace in the shortened season).
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He scored 25 last season......so, no.
Listen, he's a good player that can score. No denying that. But he's not a one of a kind player in the league. There are other players that can score as much or more than he can (40 players last year, to be exact). And most of those players don't have the awful contract Kessel does. If he gets traded he'll bring back a decent return, but teams aren't going to give the Leafs the world for him.
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06-23-2015, 02:05 PM
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#588
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Dan Rosen @drosennhl
Dubnyk doesn't see Thursday, when he can begin talking to other teams, as deadline to get deal done w/Wild. But he won't close doors either.
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06-23-2015, 02:13 PM
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#589
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Rangers turned down 2 2nd rounders for Talbot. I wonder what team offered that? Flames? Oilers?
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06-23-2015, 02:13 PM
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#590
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruttiger
Doubtful. He's no Jay Bouwmeester.
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Nonsense, if the NHL was not based on Earth he would be the best player on Earth. He is easily the best NHL goalie in at least 140 countries.
And he looks like TJ Miller.
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06-23-2015, 02:14 PM
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#591
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Don't see the Flames doing that. Oilers maybe.
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06-23-2015, 02:16 PM
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#592
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by kehatch
Hudler's point per game each season to date: 0.37, 0.52, 0.7, 0.51, 0.62, 0.67, 0.64, 0.72, 0.97.
I really like the guy. But one of those numbers doesn't belong. Not for a 30+ year old in his 9 full season.
No comment on Kessel. But I think some might be over valuing Hudler's trade value.
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It's the magic of Johnny Hockey, You just have to look at part 2 of AC's Gaudreau video to see that. As much as I don't want Kessel anywhere near this team he's a finisher and would score a lot of goals with Johnny.
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06-23-2015, 02:16 PM
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#593
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary - Transplanted Manitoban
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K, off of the Leafs chat....
I think Ryan Pulock would be a great target for this team. 6'2, 212lb, right handed 20 year old D-man on a team that is LOADED on the back end. The Isles have Boychuk, Leddy, Hamonic, de Hann, and Hickey in the NHL, and Reinhart, Pulock and Mayfield coming through the ranks. That is 8 NHL d-men.
Could we get Pulock for 2 2nd's + a prospect? or Hudler and a 2nd?
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06-23-2015, 02:16 PM
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#594
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Dan Rosen @drosennhl
Dubnyk doesn't see Thursday, when he can begin talking to other teams, as deadline to get deal done w/Wild. But he won't close doors either.
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I'd be in on us signing Dubnyk.
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06-23-2015, 02:17 PM
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#595
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Don't see the Flames doing that. Oilers maybe.
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They said it wasn't the Oilers. Either Sabres or Flames.
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06-23-2015, 02:19 PM
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#596
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Franchise Player
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Better to sign Dubnyk rather than giving up picks for Talbot, no?
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06-23-2015, 02:20 PM
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#597
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Better to sign Dubnyk rather than giving up picks for Talbot, no?
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Depends on his contract, and whether last year was a fluke or not. Unless he's willing to take a one or two year deal, it's too risky IMO.
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06-23-2015, 02:21 PM
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#598
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
They said it wasn't the Oilers. Either Sabres or Flames.
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Why couldn't it be 2nd rounders from different years? Could be sharks
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06-23-2015, 02:23 PM
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#599
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Nonsense, if the NHL was not based on Earth he would be the best player on Earth. He is easily the best NHL goalie in at least 140 countries.
And he looks like TJ Miller.

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Quoted specifically because of the Silicon Valley pic/ref
Greatest show ever haha
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06-23-2015, 02:23 PM
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#600
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Franchise Player
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If the Flames trade two seconds for Talbot I will not be at all impressed.
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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