View Poll Results: How will Gaudreau-gate get resolved?
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sign after Frozen Four
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go back for his senior year and the Flames will trade him
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go back for his senior year and the Flames will sign him after
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go back for his senior year and holdout to sign with someone else Aug 15, 2015
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04-03-2014, 10:07 AM
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#601
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Personally, I was ready to see him canned after the whole O'Reilly fiasco.
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The O'Reilly thing was definitely a huge blunder and inexcusable.
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04-03-2014, 10:12 AM
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#602
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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I guess the other thing to factor in is who our new GM will be, because Burke won't be in that position come the season opener.
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04-03-2014, 10:13 AM
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#603
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by MattyC
And what about what Johnny wants? Does he want to try and beat out Lucic, Iginla (possibly), Eriksson, Marchand, Smith etc.. for a wing spot? Does Boston's system prefer small players?
No NHL team prefers small players to large players. But if your small player is Patrick Kane, you work around him. The same will go for JG. I imagine when Burke goes to have final contract talks with Gaudreau he will emphasize that JG will have the same opportunity as anyone else to make the Flames.
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I don't know how they would fit him in but Iginla is year to year and we know the Bruins have had interest in Johnny Hockey for a while now and he's the player they wanted back for Seguin. I'm just connecting the dots here and this is just my opinion based on where he's playing school, his parents involvement in his career, and the Bruins interest.
Hopefully he comes around and signs with the Flames and this is all moot.
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04-03-2014, 10:15 AM
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#604
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Scoring Winger
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Who was the poster who said Johnny would 100% sign with Calgary? Was that a legit source?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Found that quote,
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Originally Posted by BChockeyJunkie
Gaudreau will 100% ink a deal the day he plays his last bc game this season. Stop worrying.
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Last edited by endeavor; 04-03-2014 at 11:11 AM.
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04-03-2014, 10:17 AM
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#605
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I don't know how they would fit him in but Iginla is year to year and we know the Bruins have had interest in Johnny Hockey for a while now and he's the player they wanted back for Seguin. I'm just connecting the dots here and this is just my opinion based on where he's playing school, his parents involvement in his career, and the Bruins interest.
Hopefully he comes around and signs with the Flames and this is all moot.
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But again, this is his parents we're talking about, not Johnny. I doubt there are many of us here that have gone through life making all the choice our parents wished we made.
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Originally Posted by endeavor
Who was the poster who said Johnny would 100% sign with Calgary? Was that a legit source?
Thanks in advance.
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It was Al Morganti, an east coast reporter who is close to the Gaudreau family. Has had multiple interviews on The Fan over the past few months and each time has said that he is extremely confident that Gaudreau will be a Flame following the completion of his NCAA season.
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04-03-2014, 10:22 AM
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#606
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by MattyC
It was Al Morganti, an east coast reporter who is close to the Gaudreau family. Has had multiple interviews on The Fan over the past few months and each time has said that he is extremely confident that Gaudreau will be a Flame following the completion of his NCAA season.
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He also said that recently, so AFTER Feaster was let go. That's a good sign.
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04-03-2014, 10:23 AM
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#607
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Table 5
The O'Reilly thing was definitely a huge blunder and inexcusable.
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That right there was immediate grounds for dismissal and probably ultimately caused the owners too look at another direction. Let's not forget the centre position fiasco last season where he brought in the best centre outside the NHL that was a winger. The ridicule over a talent starved team using a 1st round pick on a high risk developmental prospect. For every good move made (and there were a few), there was a blunder and it was like they were always going to be one step forward, one step back and that's not good enough.
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04-03-2014, 10:31 AM
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#608
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Franchise Player
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I think in 10 years it will be funny to see how many franchise players we already had in 2014 but most fans simply had no realized it yet. I think Johnny will be one of them.
Screw the naysayers. This team is already a lot better than it gets credit for. They'll be in the playoffs in 2-3 years (tops). And I think they will be a handful when they make it.
Quote that for posterity, if I am wrong I won't be embarrassed to admit it.
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04-03-2014, 10:31 AM
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#609
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
That right there was immediate grounds for dismissal and probably ultimately caused the owners too look at another direction. Let's not forget the centre position fiasco last season where he brought in the best centre outside the NHL that was a winger. The ridicule over a talent starved team using a 1st round pick on a high risk developmental prospect. For every good move made (and there were a few), there was a blunder and it was like they were always going to be one step forward, one step back and that's not good enough.
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They same will be said for every GM...Sutter made plenty of them, and I think Burke already made his first big one with not being able to ship out Cammalleri.
The whole Cervenka think was a low-risk experiment that was blown way out of proportion. It didn't end well...but hey, low-risk, who cares. I'm glad they tried something out of the box.
The O'Reilly thing was really dumb, and yeah, could've been a valid reason to can a GM. That and the team wanting to sign Brad Richards (probably under the win-now mantra) was the low points of his tenure for me.
But in the end, I think a lot of the blunders ar out-weighted by what he and his team have done in terms of loading up on prospects. At least on paper, that's the best set of prospects this team has had since the 80s. He needs to get credit for that.
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04-03-2014, 10:37 AM
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#610
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Norm!
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I think that 10 minutes after the BC season ends Burke needs to pull up in a 300 foot long limo with a swimming pool in the back, loaded with every liquor imaginable, and stocked floor to ceiling with hot chicks.
He needs to call Johnny's mother "mamma" and Johnny's father "pops"
There needs to be lots of hip hop music at top volume and Burke needs to be wearing leather pants and a fake fur white rabbit jacket.
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04-03-2014, 10:37 AM
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#611
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argh i hate being pulled into this topic, but i have to ask.
Let's say he doesn't sign at the end of his current season and goes back to finish up at BC. I have read that he will be a UFA if Calgary doesn't sign him before AUG 1st. I have read that this differs from the Shultz situation, in that he was a UFA on Jul 1st. Is there really any difference in their situations and the amount of flexibility the have when they hit their ufa date?
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04-03-2014, 10:39 AM
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#612
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
argh i hate being pulled into this topic, but i have to ask.
Let's say he doesn't sign at the end of his current season and goes back to finish up at BC. I have read that he will be a UFA if Calgary doesn't sign him before AUG 1st. I have read that this differs from the Shultz situation, in that he was a UFA on Jul 1st. Is there really any difference in their situations and the amount of flexibility the have when they hit their ufa date?
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Aug 15 for Gaudreau.
I believe Schultz became a UFA as soon as his NCAA season ended due to him playing a year in the USHL after being drafted. So his final 3rd NCAA season was his 4th year as an unsigned prospect. Gaudreau went straight to BC so this doesn't apply to him.
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04-03-2014, 10:39 AM
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#613
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
argh i hate being pulled into this topic, but i have to ask.
Let's say he doesn't sign at the end of his current season and goes back to finish up at BC. I have read that he will be a UFA if Calgary doesn't sign him before AUG 1st. I have read that this differs from the Shultz situation, in that he was a UFA on Jul 1st. Is there really any difference in their situations and the amount of flexibility the have when they hit their ufa date?
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We just get an additional month to off-load him.
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04-03-2014, 10:40 AM
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#614
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: West of Calgary
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
It was a bunch of times actually.
Oh please. There is definitely smoke and the ultra defensive posters are just as bad as the paranoid ones.
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No, it was once...in your head it was a bunch of times because more than one news outlet reported it. He has said he is small repeatedly because that is actually true but only one booster seat joke unless I completely missed the boat and I am a news nerd so i would have heard about it..
There is no smoke...just the smoke you are making, listen to one Morganti interview from the Fan and start sleeping again.
This is really getting out of hand....he is signing and it will be this year.
My optimism comes from hearing multiple Morganti interviews and he is positive JG is signing...he is close to the situation, the family, the area the BC coach. He is a respected member of the hockey writers and would not throw crap out willy nilly.
Now I am going to back out of this thread for real....I am not trying to pick a fight but some of you are really reaching and fabricating a lot of stress for yourselves.
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04-03-2014, 10:41 AM
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#615
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Gaudreau should be a similar situation to Corban a Knight no?
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04-03-2014, 11:03 AM
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#616
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by MattyC
It was Al Morganti, an east coast reporter who is close to the Gaudreau family. Has had multiple interviews on The Fan over the past few months and each time has said that he is extremely confident that Gaudreau will be a Flame following the completion of his NCAA season.
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Well hopefully it's a good sign then, thanks.
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04-03-2014, 11:14 AM
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#617
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
argh i hate being pulled into this topic, but i have to ask.
Let's say he doesn't sign at the end of his current season and goes back to finish up at BC. I have read that he will be a UFA if Calgary doesn't sign him before AUG 1st. I have read that this differs from the Shultz situation, in that he was a UFA on Jul 1st. Is there really any difference in their situations and the amount of flexibility the have when they hit their ufa date?
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I should clarify, JG would be a UFA Aug 15, 2015, after his last year at BC.
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04-03-2014, 11:17 AM
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#618
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I believe in the Pony Power
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I think Johnny will sign here this year.
If he does not I also would expect the Flames will trade his rights.
They aren't going to let this one go down to the wire.
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04-03-2014, 11:25 AM
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#619
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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I hate that this is even a discussion. He's already a Calgary Flame, the signing piece is a technicality because of NCAA rules. Stop freaking worrying about this already.
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04-03-2014, 11:26 AM
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#620
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Franchise Player
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i really hope it doesn't come to this, but am curious as to what his worth would be.
Erixon (former 1st rounder) got us 2 x 2nd round picks + Horak.
Gaudreau (former 4th rounder) who has progressed at an amazing rate since being drafted.
It would be very interesting to see the kind of value he would be deemed worth by GMs.
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