Italy, Germany. We're arguing about a false dichotomy here.
People are not saying what happened in Germany or Italy will happen in the states, a river always carves a valley but never takes the same path. But we are saying is they are digging a valley, allowing bag actors to do damage to their institutions in similar ways, it may be true that they are starting with stronger institutions, but they already become a lot weaker than any of us had ever anticipated, and its time to call it out for what it is.
Minimizing what comparisons do exist because they are cliche at this point is pretty counter productive to the when we all need to be ringing alarm bells at this point.
I'd recommend listening to the opening monologue, of the most recent episode (The Crisis isn't Trump, its the Republican Part). he probably does a better job of articulating an appropriate level of alarm that I can. https://www.vox.com/ezra-klein-show-podcast
I'm not saying there aren't huge problems here, dude.
If I had to compare Trump's "fascist" governing style to something, it would be more inline with current Middle Eastern countries or monarchies before 1918. It's all about improving his own situation, the situations of his family and close circle, and not at all about the country.
Comparing him to Hitler or Mussolini gives him more credit than he deserves, but also pushes aside the human rights issues. Trump has obviously trampled on civil rights to a degree, but nothing compared to those two. But those two actually had strategies and visions for their country. Hitler was a mad man and Mussolini was a thug, but they also cared more about their countries than themselves (albeit in a sick way). Trump doesn't care about Americans, just his own success and legacy. He has no consistent or coherent strategy or plan. He's a Ferdinand Marcos wannabe.
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Just how feasible do you believe the idea of a "false flag" operation is in reality? I just don't think there is a realistic chance of one ever actually working, and I suspect that is why they don't happen.
Yet they have happened and have been effective. False flags don't have to be effective in the long term, just effective enough to achieve the desired state.
I realize that Peter, but what you are saying is Mussolini was 'better', less dangerous than Hitler where as in truth the difference was not the man but the country, Italy was not, nor is to this day as efficient as Germany therefore it's fascism wasnt as efficient either.
The damage a dictatorship in the US can do is a product of the damage the US can do, not a measure of the idiot in charge, we may decry Erdogun's subversion of Turkey but we dont really worry too much as its just Turkey, Turkey's ability to eff with the world is pretty minimal
I realize that Peter, but what you are saying is Mussolini was 'better', less dangerous than Hitler where as in truth the difference was not the man but the country, Italy was not, nor is to this day as efficient as Germany therefore it's fascism wasnt as efficient either.
The damage a dictatorship in the US can do is a product of the damage the US can do, not a measure of the idiot in charge, we may decry Erdogun's subversion of Turkey but we dont really worry too much as its just Turkey, Turkey's ability to eff with the world is pretty minimal
Look here, Wimbledon, they are taxonomically different regimes.
I think I speak not only for Corsi and myself, but for every other litigator on this board when I say that our lives are absolutely every bit as glamorous and exciting as you imagine.
Probably more so.
Do you get to wear a belt?
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If folks are discounting the regimes of the 30's, what about seeing Trump as Peron (don't know about Melania as Eva though).
It's a cult of personality that survives the 'founder', and continues on as a political force.
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I think I speak not only for Corsi and myself, but for every other litigator on this board when I say that our lives are absolutely every bit as glamorous and exciting as you imagine.
Probably more so.
But you don't fly in copters everywhere, so not as glamorous as a CA correct?
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If I had to compare Trump's "fascist" governing style to something, it would be more inline with current Middle Eastern countries or monarchies before 1918. It's all about improving his own situation, the situations of his family and close circle, and not at all about the country.
Comparing him to Hitler or Mussolini gives him more credit than he deserves, but also pushes aside the human rights issues. Trump has obviously trampled on civil rights to a degree, but nothing compared to those two. But those two actually had strategies and visions for their country. Hitler was a mad man and Mussolini was a thug, but they also cared more about their countries than themselves (albeit in a sick way). Trump doesn't care about Americans, just his own success and legacy. He has no consistent or coherent strategy or plan. He's a Ferdinand Marcos wannabe.
I agree...but think that Trump is more of a Kaiser Wilheim (insecurity in spades) that could drive his country into a disastrous situation.
The scary thing about that analogy is that its the fallout from Kaiser Wilheims choices that led to the environment that allowed the rise of Hitler.
I'm more worried about who could follow Trump if things break a certain way. A 'leader' with more competence but Fascist/Theocratic leanings would be bad
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If folks are discounting the regimes of the 30's, what about seeing Trump as Peron (don't know about Melania as Eva though).
It's a cult of personality that survives the 'founder', and continues on as a political force.
Peron is the best comparison so far. That's really good.
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I think I speak not only for Corsi and myself, but for every other litigator on this board when I say that our lives are absolutely every bit as glamorous and exciting as you imagine.
Probably more so.
Can I as a pleb please have a glass of your Macallan 25?
So lawyers are bringing frivolous cases, void of evidence, to courts that they must know will get thrown out. If they’re doing this on behalf of Trump, and billing him for it knowing it won’t get anywhere, are they entering into any kind of malpractice realm for not acting in a more fiduciary manner?
