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Old 01-18-2021, 01:24 PM   #5981
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If PLD is injured, maybe it makes him more tradeable to the Canadian teams from Columbus's perspective. If they have to wait for the player(s) coming back to quarantine for 14 days, it's less of a bite if he is going to be out for part of that time anyway.

Any Canadian team acquiring him would have to be really sure that they can do without some important players in their line-up for 14 days though, unless the trade is just for futures. I don't see Columbus wanting to do such a deal however.
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Old 01-18-2021, 01:46 PM   #5982
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If PLD is injured, maybe it makes him more tradeable to the Canadian teams from Columbus's perspective. If they have to wait for the player(s) coming back to quarantine for 14 days, it's less of a bite if he is going to be out for part of that time anyway.

Any Canadian team acquiring him would have to be really sure that they can do without some important players in their line-up for 14 days though, unless the trade is just for futures. I don't see Columbus wanting to do such a deal however.
He is not injured, Torts just sat him for the 8 minutes to end the 2nd.
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The more I think about this the more I am convinced Calgary isn't making a trade. Not with an American team. No one is going to make a trade and let that asset sit in isolation for two weeks.
While I don't disagree with this, you have to consider that a trade of that magnitude (PLD) gets done regardless of the 2-week quarantine window
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While I don't disagree with this, you have to consider that a trade of that magnitude (PLD) gets done regardless of the 2-week quarantine window
14 days without a major player in a shortened season will definitely give pause to both teams making the trade.

Outside of this five day break, if PLD has to sit for 14 days then he will miss at least 6 games and could be up to 8. Could be sitting outside of the playoffs by the end of that run and if PLD doesn't come out ready right away then it could get even worse.
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14 days without a major player in a shortened season will definitely give pause to both teams making the trade.

Outside of this five day break, if PLD has to sit for 14 days then he will miss at least 6 games and could be up to 8. Could be sitting outside of the playoffs by the end of that run and if PLD doesn't come out ready right away then it could get even worse.
I get that, it's all about timing - like if it were to happen this week then it's no biggie imo as you have him making an impact these playoffs. If it's down the stretch in a shortened season than yes, I can see how this plays a bigger part in it.
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Wouldn't it only be 7 days (NHL mandated) quarantine for someone to come to Calgary? If they fly here they can just do the yyc pilot project no?
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14 days without a major player in a shortened season will definitely give pause to both teams making the trade.

Outside of this five day break, if PLD has to sit for 14 days then he will miss at least 6 games and could be up to 8. Could be sitting outside of the playoffs by the end of that run and if PLD doesn't come out ready right away then it could get even worse.
Imagine losing any of our top centers and a winger for 6-8 games. I think we'd see a losing streak during that period and one that could sink the season.

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Wouldn't it only be 7 days (NHL mandated) quarantine for someone to come to Calgary? If they fly here they can just do the yyc pilot project no?
I thought the YYC pilot was if you didn't have significant contact or travel? Seeing as there is so much travel in the compressed schedule I think the pilot program is a non-starter.
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Wouldn't it only be 7 days (NHL mandated) quarantine for someone to come to Calgary? If they fly here they can just do the yyc pilot project no?
Not sure. That is what I thought but why would the Edmonton goalie need to quarantine for 14 days? Fly through Calgary, do the system there and drive up alone or something.
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Imagine losing any of our top centers and a winger for 6-8 games. I think we'd see a losing streak during that period and one that could sink the season.


I thought the YYC pilot was if you didn't have significant contact or travel? Seeing as there is so much travel in the compressed schedule I think the pilot program is a non-starter.
Yea I suppose that would sting...I guess if it was to be done it's right NOW given the 5-day break coming up...
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Not that I’m sympathetic towards the players, but I wonder how the locker room would react to a Monahan for Dubois trade.
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I know it's early but Max Domi has not looked good at C for Columbus. Gotta think that CBJ pretty much has to get a C back in any Dubois trade. A good one.
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I know it's early but Max Domi has not looked good at C for Columbus. Gotta think that CBJ pretty much has to get a C back in any Dubois trade. A good one.
It isn't like Columbus is some powerhouse team. I think making a short sighted trade based on positional need would be a huge mistake.

No one else is trading a 22 year old centre who are actively in the NHL contributing like Dubois is, so that's why this whole situation sucks for the Jackets.

So how are they best served? Trading Dubois to get an older centre back? Or would it be best to go out and acquire picks/centre prospects/good prospects?

Short term pain, longterm gain. It is a 56 game season - they have a good defence, good goalie depth, but up front Dubois wanting out is a huge blow - it should not be about this season, it should be about building the foundation for their group up front.

I think targeting someone like Dylan Cozens would be smart.

Friedman again today (on with Steinberg) says "you guys in Calgary are there", and I don't think that would necessarily involve Monahan - especially with Monahan having a NTC. Could it be a big package including pieces like Zary? Yeah.

But the Blue Jackets have to be smart here. No one else is out there offering up a 22 year old centre the quality of Dubois. As far as 1 for 1 deal, Laine would be the only thing out there that we know I'd consider, but I don't imagine Laine wants to be in Columbus and I don't think they should go the route of acquiring a winger as the cornerstone piece of the deal.

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If Jackets want to chase a futures package Calgary is out of the running.

Zary, 1st++ could be so easily topped by other interested teams like LA, Buffalo, Rangers, etc.

If Flames fans want Dubois we need to hope Jarmo is looking to do a hockey deal
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If Jackets want to chase a futures package Calgary is out of the running.

Zary, 1st++ could be so easily topped by other interested teams like LA, Buffalo, Rangers, etc.

If Flames fans want Dubois we need to hope Jarmo is looking to do a hockey deal
Yup. if Columbus goes futures then the Flames are out of the running anyway. It is Monahan or bust from the Flames perspective.
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Can you imagine if Flames could get Dubois without giving up any of the top forwards?

Tkachuk Dubois Lindholm
Gaudreau Monahan Dube
Mangiapagne Bennett Leivo
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Columbus would be smart to make a deal with a team that has some flexibility at center. Calgary is a team that would make sense. Sean Monahan and Sam Bennett for PL Dubois and Cliff Pu? Gives them a two for one shot down the middle and doesn't impact our depth. Still don't think a deal gets done with the COVID mess.
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I think it's reasonable to assume that while Torts isn't the GM he will have some input on the players who the Blue Jackets would acquire. I also assume they would want a player would could deal with Torts positively. I can see them interested in Bennett as part of a deal....I also wonder if during Tort's stints with the US National teams that he ever crossed paths with Gaudreau? I honestly don't know but I do wonder.
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I suspect that a deal doesn't go down now until the off-season. Which is interesting b/c that would also be the pinch point for Johnny (1 year left) and Sean (2 years left).
And a pending expansion decision on Sam.

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Old 01-18-2021, 04:52 PM   #5999
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Yup. if Columbus goes futures then the Flames are out of the running anyway. It is Monahan or bust from the Flames perspective.
Monahan + Bennett for PLD.

Let Sam take penalties 180 feet from someone else’s net.
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