2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[ComixZone]

Friedman speculated that Columbus would be patient and see where their season goes before making a move...but I wonder what they'll be thinking if the Jackets lose today and tomorrow to Detroit. After these two games against the woeful Red Wings, they have two straight against Tampa. If they don't get a win out of Detroit, it's pretty conceivable that they may end up starting the season 0-6.

[The Yen Man]

I know Friedman says that, but Tortorella doesn't seem that patient of any players that don't want to be in his dressing room. He seems to be the type of coach who you either have to buy in, or you're out quick.

If CBJ struggles in the next 10 games, and PLD continues to struggle, I think CBJ will make a panic move. There's no detriment to Calgary to wait it out longer if they are indeed serious about getting PLD. If he goes to another team, then so be it.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Friedman speculated that Columbus would be patient and see where their season goes before making a move...but I wonder what they'll be thinking if the Jackets lose today and tomorrow to Detroit. After these two games against the woeful Red Wings, they have two straight against Tampa. If they don't get a win out of Detroit, it's pretty conceivable that they may end up starting the season 0-6.

I feel like if the teams season hits the skids really hard then Jarmo starts looking a lot more closely at a futures lead package which puts LA, Anaheim, NYR as far more attractive trade partners.

There is also the chance that a poor start could lead to a coaching change and potential change of heart for PLD?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Got to give something that hurts in the package for PLD. Valimaki is the requisite blood.

We have the organizational strength to bear trading him.

I don’t see how it is an organizational strength when our top Dman is 37 and another top 4 is 31. We do not have a stud prospect at the position other than Valimaki.

The dream package in my opinion would be Monahan+3rd rounder. Flames keep their top picks and swap their top center for a younger one. I get your rationale about keeping Monahan but I don’t know if that is necessary if we get PLD. Lindholm wants to be center and has looked good doing it.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Got to give something that hurts in the package for PLD. Valimaki is the requisite blood.

We have the organizational strength to bear trading him.

Columbus isn’t winning anything with the center depth they have with or without PLD. Adding a high potential defenseman, which is already their strength, makes no sense to them unless they’re trading Jones or Werenski for that top pairing center.

[Lanny_McDonald]

The more I think about this the more I am convinced Calgary isn't making a trade. Not with an American team. No one is going to make a trade and let that asset sit in isolation for two weeks.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

It's a dream because it doesn't involve us giving up our current #1C and we still acquire a young potential #1C. Obviously it would be great to trade a 4th rounder for PLD but that's not realistic. Neither is trading Bennett + a dman with lesser potential.

Why wouldn’t the dream offer be Hanifin as the dman piece then?

He still has immense potential and high draft pick pedigree.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by New Era

The more I think about this the more I am convinced Calgary isn't making a trade. Not with an American team. No one is going to make a trade and let that asset sit in isolation for two weeks.

I agree with this and this has been the messaging from the insiders out there. Seems like teams pushed hard before the season but now that it is underway the timing of the deal to a Canadian team makes very little sense.

[CsInMyBlood]

Monahan has to be the central piece. Sweeteners include draft picks, or Zary/Pelletier. It just makes too much sense from every stand point. If you're adding Hanifin some defenseman has to be coming back.

Salary is a thing in this NHL.

I know the people that are downplaying Pierre Luc Dubois really havent watched him play. I have a connection to Ryan Murray so I've watched a lot of Blue Jackets games since Dubois came into the league. Hes so much better than his "on paper" shows at this point in his career. He is poised to breakout. I also know that hes a good guy and teammate, these trade demands dont accurately paint what kind of guy he is.

Those that think anything more than Monahan would be an overpayment are out to lunch. Some even believe Monahan alone would be an overpayment. Crazy to me.

In the next couple of seasons when Dubois emerges as a star in this league and Monahan is still as invisible as usual with even less value (especially if Johnny leaves) while the Flames are still spinning their wheels with him as our #1 center some of the takes in here are going to be proven hilarious.

You have to give to get and I believe Dubois is going to become an amazing player in the near future. This is the deal to not only shake up the Flames funk but make us a much better team for years to come. I have faith that Treliving knows this to be true. We have the assets to make a deal. Put your chips in. Make the bold move.

We shall see.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by New Era

The more I think about this the more I am convinced Calgary isn't making a trade. Not with an American team. No one is going to make a trade and let that asset sit in isolation for two weeks.

Yeah, the only way I can see it happening is if it is a futures-heavy deal while subtracting a smaller piece from the roster (Bennett/Ryan).

If we're looking at a "hockey trade" of impact player for impact player, the 2 weeks of lost time is just too steep of a price. The only break we really have in the schedule happens after tonight's game. So I'd really say if it doesn't happen tonight or tomorrow, there will be no in-season "hockey trade".

[sa226]

Who knows what the offers were prior to the beginning of the season, but I can't see 2 teams making a trade like that mid season.

In a likely ultra competitive shortened season I can't see a GM willing to part with either PLD or the players needed to get him and be without those guys for the required quarantine time.

What would the missed games be? 6 to 8? Thats almost 10 games in a 82 game season. The absence of a top end player for that percentage of a season could make or break your year.

Crazier things have happened. Perhaps later in the season as positioning takes shape, but in the near future I just don't see a trade happening.

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[jg13]

Laine out for the Jets tonight.

Edit: Nvm apparently upper body injury

[Sandman]

This trade demand has got to be a huge distraction internally, and whenever they struggle, fans and media are going to bring up PLD’s situation. I can see them exercising some patience, but I don’t think they can drag it out too long.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by jg13

Laine out for the Jets tonight.

Edit: Nvm apparently upper body injury

Whuuuuuuuut?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, the only way I can see it happening is if it is a futures-heavy deal while subtracting a smaller piece from the roster (Bennett/Ryan).

If we're looking at a "hockey trade" of impact player for impact player, the 2 weeks of lost time is just too steep of a price. The only break we really have in the schedule happens after tonight's game. So I'd really say if it doesn't happen tonight or tomorrow, there will be no in-season "hockey trade".

I was going to suggest something like that. If you don't give up a key piece of your roster to acquire a top player then you can afford to wait a little bit for him to get out of quarantine. However, that new player better be a guaranteed top center who will improve the team to the upper echelon because it is going to cost a lot in picks to make this work. Is Dubois that player? Is Columbus looking for future or immediate replacement? As much as I'd like to see it, this type of trade just doesn't make sense to me this year.

[SuperMatt18]

Not sure if it's injury or he got benched but PLD had one shift in the final 8 minutes of the period.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Then we shouldn't be either. Over-paying, just to get it done now, is not good asset management.

Columbus is the team that needs to get this done, not Calgary.

Make no mistake, there are lots of teams that covet a first line centre.

If Calgary takes the view that Columbus effectively needs to come to them, he won’t be a Flame.

Some team will over pay. I’m not saying it needs to be Calgary, but waiting is not the answer.


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[loob job]

He's hurt, not being traded.

[Canada 02]

PLD with a nice goal vs Detroit

[DomeFoam]

Monahan from CBJs standpoint makes a lot of sense. Someone who can step in now for them and is so boring that he won't recognize Columbus from New York. Torts may also be able to extract more out of him than any other coach I can think of.

My question is the true reason PLD wants out of CBJ. If it is due to wanting to play on a 'bigger stage', is Calgary that? Sure, its a Canadian market but its also a small market and way out west from where he truly wants to be - Montreal. Id be cautious as he could just pull more antics down the road. But part of me thinks the overarching reason is Torts. Sounds like they do not like one another.