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Old 10-27-2025, 09:47 AM   #581
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People may laugh at the Landon Johnson for winning but in a conversation the other day with 2 council members and associated staff (re-elected and stepping down) his ground game was extremely strong. It sounds like he reached out to a lot of political people and picked their brains on how to turn this into a winning campaign.

He is not my ward and I don't know anything about him but this has the civic version of Ruth Ellen Brosseau written all over it, the famous NDP bartender MP who ended up being an amazing NDP MP for her people. People laughed at her but was considered a great MP.
Maybe - that's a huge leap though. At this point we have no evidence that he will be a good, nevermind amazing Councillor. He's a wildcard so I guess we'll all have to wait and see.

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Old 10-27-2025, 10:17 AM   #582
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He had names, numbers, and addresses of thousands of likely voters while his competition had to knock on doors and ask. Don't read too far into it. He walked in with huge advantage.
Wouldn't that be more in favor for Devin Elkin, since he had worked for Demong and had all his contacts? And I thought Keener Hachey was the parachuted-in UCP candidate for this ward, which would mean more support in the background for that stuff. That would be why I'm surprised Johnston pushed past them. If his ground game was better, then kudos to him. I just don't think his ideas are gonna find much traction in council. Good luck with those "properly aligned traffic lights" and "more plebiscites" stuff.
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Old 10-27-2025, 10:59 AM   #583
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He had names, numbers, and addresses of thousands of likely voters while his competition had to knock on doors and ask. Don't read too far into it. He walked in with huge advantage.
In the Alberta discussion someone brought up Thomas L potentially using his petition as a way to gather voter/contact info for political purposes with respect to starting a new party or whatever and it was mentioned that it is not possible because the information collected is turned over to Elections Alberta right away.

If that is the case for Thomas it would be the same for Landon with the recall campaign.
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Old 10-27-2025, 11:20 AM   #584
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In the Alberta discussion someone brought up Thomas L potentially using his petition as a way to gather voter/contact info for political purposes with respect to starting a new party or whatever and it was mentioned that it is not possible because the information collected is turned over to Elections Alberta right away.

If that is the case for Thomas it would be the same for Landon with the recall campaign.

That someone was also me. I'm retracting my claim.

Edit: I couldn't find any language forbidding use of the petition information by the campaign, only that the information cannot be made public, but I'm not lawyer and I only looked for 5 minutes. I believe Reggie that the Forever Canadian signatures are turned over directly to the government - I'm not arguing. Here's the bill if anyone wants to look themselves: https://kings-printer.alberta.ca/126...=9780779855704

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Old 10-27-2025, 11:34 AM   #585
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Won't be Magliocca bad, but he's definitely another McLean and Chu in the sense that they'll need everything dumbed down and explained to them numerous times
McLean sticks me as more of a tool then an idiot (he might be both thou) but He can't be as bad as Chu... Chu at council meetings was nothing but a disjointed steam of non-sensical babble that the chair had to hand hold through turning into a motion. Wyness is almost as bad... not quite as bad... but close.
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In the Alberta discussion someone brought up Thomas L potentially using his petition as a way to gather voter/contact info for political purposes with respect to starting a new party or whatever and it was mentioned that it is not possible because the information collected is turned over to Elections Alberta right away.

If that is the case for Thomas it would be the same for Landon with the recall campaign.
Have not confirmed personally, but Lukaszuk has said in a number of interviews that the petition names have to be handed over to Elections Alberta and then shreded after counting - that they can't be used for creating a list.
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McLean sticks me as more of a tool then an idiot (he might be both thou) but He can't be as bad as Chu... Chu at council meetings was nothing but a disjointed steam of non-sensical babble that the chair had to hand hold through turning into a motion. Wyness is almost as bad... not quite as bad... but close.
Wong was also almost as bad.
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Wong was also almost as bad.
Yup, another one that Gondek (or the chair of the meeting) would have to get back on track and on point more often than not.

I don't think we will have that problem with Atkinson.
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Out of curiosity I looked up the Ward 14 candidate spending disclosures (up to July 31) to see what the fundraising looked like. It was pretty surprising.

Councilor:
Chima Akuchie - $25595
Erin Averbukh - $2875
Devin Elkin - $0
Keener Hachey - $115
Landon Johnston - $14470 (winner)
Sunjiv Raval - $8125
Ryan Stutt - $108

Public Trustee:
Sabad-e Gul - $0
Rob Lennard - $2277
Brian Martin - $0
Charlene May - $500 (winner)
Dar Zuch - $9457

Separate Trustee:
All reported no fundraising amounts

What's a school trustee candidate doing with that money you might ask? If you look at the disclosure, Dar Zuch spent $10500 on "consulting" from Western Impact, the company that The Sprawl investigated as the one providing all the "slate" trustee candidates with advertising, websites, and so on.

Where did the fundraising come from? $4332 came from Dar Zuch's own money, and $5000 of it came from Technical Infrastructure, an apartment security system installer with no reviews or internet footprint aside from their website, a Youtube channel that started regularly posted videos starting 6 months ago, and a LinkedIn account with 20 followers. The CEO and Founder of Technical Infrastructure? Dar Zuch. He placed 4th out of 5 candidates for trustee with 3454 votes.

While it may look like Chima Akuchie raised the most money, his disclosure was all the way up to Oct 1st. We'll have to see what the others end up at, but that could be a long wait for the final disclosures. Chima got 6th of out 7 candidates with 1986 votes for his troubles.
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Mayoral recount results announced. Farkas is still our mayor-elect, and his lead increased from 581 to 616.

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I'm not sure I can have confidence in a hand count ballot system where the numbers are always changing. This is a threat to democracy. I demand the government restores our faith in democracy by using machines to reduce human error.


/this is how it works in Alberta, right?
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I'm not sure I can have confidence in a hand count ballot system where the numbers are always changing. This is a threat to democracy. I demand the government restores our faith in democracy by using machines to reduce human error.


/this is how it works in Alberta, right?
Hey now, those adults are counting as high as they can given the quality of education in this province. They’re doing their best.
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I'm not sure I can have confidence in a hand count ballot system where the numbers are always changing. This is a threat to democracy. I demand the government restores our faith in democracy by using machines to reduce human error.


/this is how it works in Alberta, right?
You need to slip in a vague, debunked, American conspiracy theory. Then you're all set.
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I'm not sure I can have confidence in a hand count ballot system where the numbers are always changing. This is a threat to democracy. I demand the government restores our faith in democracy by using machines to reduce human error.


/this is how it works in Alberta, right?
There were recounts under the previous tabulator system and the numbers kept changing too. It's unfortunate that you don't have confidence in the Canadian election system. Our once solid federal system has let you down.

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Hey now, those adults are counting as high as they can given the quality of education in this province. They’re doing their best.
Damn, I think a bunch of educators are involved in this election.

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There were recounts under the previous tabulator system and the numbers kept changing too. It's unfortunate that you don't have confidence in the Canadian election system. Our once solid federal system has let you down.
Or, and here's a wild idea, perhaps I was being facetious to prove a point. One you unsurprisingly managed to miss completely. Find any acorns yet?
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There were recounts under the previous tabulator system and the numbers kept changing too. It's unfortunate that you don't have confidence in the Canadian election system. Our once solid federal system has let you down.
I still have total confidence in federal elections. I no longer have full confidence in elections inside Alberta.

Serious question: how are you not incredibly embarrassed to take up conservative talking points today?
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