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Old 01-22-2023, 06:51 AM   #581
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Your a young stubborn Eric Francis . You have the same career trajectory as him . . You report your hate and love for a particular player . He made a career you'll be just fine.
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Old 01-22-2023, 07:02 AM   #582
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This is a player who has gone under the radar so far despite also being a "rookie" (an older one for sure, but still...).

We talk about youth injection but we've had several already this year. Ruzicka is now a regular, Zohorna got a few games, now we get to see Duehr in an extended stretch and he looks quite good. Great speed and has a good shot off the wing. Pelletier may or may not stick for the rest of the year, but he also has good potential to be an NHLer sooner rather than later.

All in all, I think we're doing okay in bringing some younger players along. Let's also not forget that Dube is having his best season ever and looks like a permanent fixture in the top 6.

Remember, we haven't really had a lot of top picks in recent years, so this is as good as it gets when you don't have the draft capital.
Zohorna turns 27 in a couple months, not sure he qualifies as “injecting youth”. There is some youth we could inject (Pelletier and Zary are two players who would qualify as youth) but I don’t think Zohorna does.
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Old 01-22-2023, 07:07 AM   #583
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Your a young stubborn Eric Francis . You have the same career trajectory as him . . You report your hate and love for a particular player . He made a career you'll be just fine.
It is you’re.
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Geoff Ward was the polite with the media coach we all loved and needed. Shame that relationship came to an end so soon. Even other team’s prospects would be clamouring to come here with how positive and nice he was.
Geoff Ward was benching Kylington without explanation before Sutter was.

The last coach to actually

1) Play prospects and give them an equal chance as veterans (i.e. meritocracy)
2) Know how to interact with the media


Was Bob Hartley.

Peters started off that way, but upon the fantenberg acquisition lost his way.
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Old 01-22-2023, 07:39 AM   #586
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I think Sutter made it pretty clear how he felt about Pelletier by putting him on the ice with 6min left in the game.

Salim pushing the Tre/Sutter rift agenda, using AHL stats to make an argument that Phillips & Pelletier deserve to be with the big club. That’s he he got a response focused on NHL statistics.
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Geoff Ward was benching Kylington without explanation before Sutter was.

The last coach to actually

1) Play prospects and give them an equal chance as veterans (i.e. meritocracy)
2) Know how to interact with the media


Was Bob Hartley.

Peters started off that way, but upon the fantenberg acquisition lost his way.

Bob Hartly wass forced to play prospects because he had a team full of spare parts. Prospects get equal chance if 1. They are good and really consistent 2. Thier team sucks.
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Is Francis new to this? That's Sutter's thing. Never too high after a win, never too low after a loss.
New to sensationalism? Nope.

Can we go back to Francis quotes in spoiler tags?
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Old 01-22-2023, 07:52 AM   #589
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After the game Huberdeau was the first player to skate up to Pelletier and he gave him a big hug and said something
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Old 01-22-2023, 08:15 AM   #590
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After the game Huberdeau was the first player to skate up to Pelletier and he gave him a big hug and said something
Écoute pas ce que Sutter va dire dans la conférence de presse.
Il se croit drôle!
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Two ways to look at it, if Pelletier plays Monday it's just Sutter trying to bring the kid along his way, if he doesn't play Monday it's a concern.
Spoiler: “Treliving” surprises everyone by sending Pelletier back to the Wranglers today and CP implodes…
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Old 01-22-2023, 09:22 AM   #592
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Basically it was a game, Flames should win.

This was Tampa's 4th game in 6 nights on a road trip

Hopefully the Flames can use this game and play more consistently.
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Old 01-22-2023, 09:41 AM   #593
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So, the Sutter quote has really blown up. It looks really bad when written out but actually watching the video? I don’t think it’s that bad.

I dunno, maybe I’m off base here but I think if you’re genuinely outraged by that you might need to take a few deep breaths. On film it’s not nearly as bad as it reads on paper.
I thought it was bad on the radio but once I saw the video you can see it's Sutter doing his thing.
I think he miss que'd this one, bad execution of a Sutterism, but he wasn't trying to do anything more then that.

I do get the negative reaction to it, but it was more bad joke than malicious intent so some of the reaction is too extreme.
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I swear I missed the ATL somewhere.
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This was an important win with teams around them all winning last night. The upcoming schedule is pretty soft for the coming weeks and the Flames have the opportunity to make up some ground in the standings and maybe pass the Kings. Just can't take some of the bad teams lightly as the Flames had done this season as they have to beat the Jackets and Hawks.
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Old 01-22-2023, 10:01 AM   #596
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If we're going to spin narratives to suit our world view, I've got one.

This was a masterclass in taking the pressure off of the team. Sutter has always been one of the best at having the pulse of the team and players. He sees a group that is feeling the pressure of expectations in a Canadian market. A team that fancies themselves competing for the division title, not one of the last playoff spots.

So he is making the media talk about him. Not his young players, not the power play, not his struggling vezina finalist. Him.

It's akin to "Must be New York again, gotta talk to Canada's team"
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Wait so was there no ATL?
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Old 01-22-2023, 10:32 AM   #598
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Guys like Jason Robertson, Drake Batherson, Josh Norris, Alex Formenton, carter Varhaeghe, Victor Olafson, Miko Rantanen. Are those the AHL point producers you are talking about?
Absolutely, then a whole bunch of guys who ended up in Europe and the KHL. The error bars on a prospect like Pelletier are still really big. No need to pile on undue pressure by having media and fans compare him to the list you just assembled. It won’t help him get there any faster.
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Old 01-22-2023, 10:33 AM   #599
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Wait so was there no ATL?
I think Gaskal said they were going to do it this morning?
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It never ceases to make me laugh when people with no knowledge of my career goals call me the next Francis. If I'm still writing about hockey in five years, I'll have made a mistake.

There's something to be said for making the most of your early 20s, but doing this forever would kill me. I barely "report" on anything anyway.
I have enjoyed seeing how hard you have worked at it and the inroads you have made.

But I totally understand wanting to pursue something that might be more stable financially. Good luck with what whatever that may be.
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