[News] Flames have 20 players, 3 coaches, and 10 support staff in COVID protocol

[cdnsir]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Cause family gatherings aren't going to have employees standing at the door checking for vaccinations.

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

well being vaccinated obviously isn't going to keep someone from getting the new strain, and half the time the person checking your QR code doesn't check your ID too closely, if at all.
(They may be more diligent at sporting events. I don't know. )

Cause you can trust a random part time server more than you can trust someone that is related by blood saying they are vaxxed.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Opening up Christmas this much for both vaccinated and unvaccinated could and likely will spread this new variant like wildfire.

Because vaccinated young players (including some with boosters as per looch) helped this so much. Ozzy's reminder above needs to be spoken way more frequently.

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

So now that the whole team has had it, should be good at least until next season's super-variant?

I'd say so. Get this over with, all at once, and now we have the most corona resistant team in the league. Preferable to a slow drip of repeatedly losing a handful of players for weeks at a time throughout the season.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Because vaccinated young players (including some with boosters as per looch) helped this so much. Ozzy's reminder above needs to be spoken way more frequently.

If this is your take, not sure you understand Ozzy's post.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

If this is your take, not sure you understand Ozzy's post.

I understand Ozzy's post perfectly well thanks. And it bears repeating often as there are those that still believe vaccination is the be all end all. Common sense is still required no matter the vaccination status. Sick , Stay home. Do a test as offered for free. Or are you just triggered because you think im against vaccination.



Forget it, still not the right thread for this


One would think now that they all should essentially have increased immunity at same time, Flames could have a edge down the stretch with less distractions of other positive tests.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Royle9

We are... but why have no other teams who also sweat and travel together go into anything on the scale the Flames have?

Just seems odd the Flames have like 25+ now between players, coaches and staff. Not a single team is even close to that... yet perhaps?

It's not entirely clear, but it does appear that there tends to be an individual or two that strongly infect those around them. There have been situations of these superspreader type small gatherings where one person is at the party and everyone walks away infected. Is that a high viral corsi?

The latest strain may also be a bit more effective at replicating in the upper respiratory region, and despite vaccination some people don't produce the types of antibodies (primarily IgA) that are the front-line source of defense in these areas.

So it could be a special case where you have someone who is vaccinated, but the virus is replicating in an area where it's easily aerosolized (upper airway/nasal) and there is a dearth of protection. And since omicron tends to replicate less in the lung, and combined with vaccination, the systemic symptoms remain mild or nonexistent.

In short, someone on the flames roster might inadvertently be really good at allowing the virus to replicate and spread despite their vaccination.

[djsFlames]

Has this turned back into a hockey news thread yet?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

The way this thing ripped through the Flames, it seems to me highly improbable it's not ripping through the general population right now. Which is a good thing if very few are getting overly sick from it.

This is actually a good thought. A more contagious but less harmful strain may actually be a blessing in disguise as far as developing antibodies, particularly in the remaining vulnerable non vaxxed population.

Also, Calgary Flames.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Has this turned back into a hockey news thread yet?

Yes, the prevailing consensus is that Sutter orchestrated all of this to make sure the team would be "battle tested" going into the playoffs.

And Sutter doesn't **** around.

[bdubbs]

Didn't want to read the last few pages but what this thread has taught me is: antivax troll posts are great for finding out which users to put on ignore. Thank you!

[Bigtime]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1471546530066747399

[ken0042]

Once again, let's not let this thread get off topic.

[shotinthebacklund]

Has it been confirmed what the timeline is going to be for players returning after positive? has there been any updates from the league into what will be a major roster issue? they only delayed one more game correct?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Yikes

[Reggie Dunlop]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1471553785772265478

British Premier League now.

[Jordan!]

Coyotes have players and staff COVID+ now

https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/sta...010570240?s=21

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Do we know its Omicron? I mean yesterday AHS only reported 60 Omicron cases in the entire province?

I assume the Flames are being tested by NHL/Flames staff, not AHS so it probably isn't added into the AHS system.

[Skyceman]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Do we know its Omicron? I mean yesterday AHS only reported 60 Omicron cases in the entire province?

If people are experiencing mild symptoms from Omicron, a lot of cases wont even be reported.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Well, this has been going on awhile now. The players are all at least double vaxed. I think literature supports that people who had covid-19 and then got vaxed have better immunity than those who are vaxed alone.

He wasn't saying Coleman is some sort of anti-covid mutant, just that he's had it before which probably gives a bit of extra immunity.

Don't disagree, but it's still not "natural" immunity. It's because of - at least in part - exposure and - again in part - vaccination. Neither of those is "natural". But yes, the result is similar.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Buff

I assume the Flames are being tested by NHL/Flames staff, not AHS so it probably isn't added into the AHS system.

The privately paid for testing for the Alberta NHL clubs would be the only difference in my opinion. If there are actual positive cases of Covid and Omicron than I would assume they would be added to the total in Alberta shortly.

These are Alberta residents and the outbreak appears to have happened here so I assume it's part of the total at some point. At least that is what would make sense.

Bottom line for the NHL and for other sports this is getting out of control quick. Realistically how much of a runway does sports really have before it is getting forced?