Explosion at the Boston Marathon

[neo45]

Originally Posted by valo403

And you're telling me that the FBI wouldn't have been able to put that together without the help of the highly untrained internet sleuths out there?

The FBI often asks for the public's help. Especially in a time-sensitive situation like this

[polak]

Originally Posted by valo403

You're seriously telling me that having your face circled and connected to this is nothing to worry about? Have you heard the name Richard Jewell?

Except Jewell was an official FBI suspect in that case.

No one is going to get fired or pinpointed cause some idiots on the internet circled their face in MS Paint.

[CaptainCrunch]

There's almost a mob mentality happening on the net where people are running their own investigations.

Unless there's a picture of the person putting his backpack on ground zero its not going tts not going to be photo's that win the day, the photo's and the way that they are going is just going to cast suspicion on one group or one race "Look at this brown guy with the packpack" "This brown guy with a beard was looking suspicious and then vanished".

To be honest, the best evidence is going to come from re-construction of the scene, hopefully DNA recovery from the bomb or the backpack remains, and maybe someone that noticed that backpack being dropped and a physical description that can then be matched to these photos.

What's happening here is no different then what conspiracy theorists do. They build their case on guesses and non interlocking snapshots. We make fun of conspiracy theorists for doing the same thing that we're doing now.

Oh and

Insert Godwin here.

[Ozy_Flame]

Yeah I don't think this guy is going to get targeted for a witch hunt because his face is circled. I think that's sensationalism.

Hasn't that been unfairly happening to Arab Americans for the last 10 years anyways?

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Crazy that there are so many qualified people on Calgarypuck for explosives analysis and criminal profiling. Thank god everyone has access to MS Paint, otherwise where would we be in this investigation? Nowhere, that's where.

Nobody on here edited any of the photos with MS paint, just reposted them from sites for those that were curious.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Crazy that there are so many qualified people on Calgarypuck for explosives analysis and criminal profiling. Thank god everyone has access to MS Paint, otherwise where would we be in this investigation? Nowhere, that's where.

Is anyone going after him on here? Calling the cops? Posting FB info or names or really anything?

We're looking at publically released pictures and playing detective. Get off your high horse.

[PsYcNeT]

Arrest all the brown people and anyone seen with a backpack.

If they didn't do anything wrong, they have nothing to fear, amirite?

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by neo45

The FBI often asks for the public's help. Especially in a time-sensitive situation like this

They do ask for help, but show me one instance where the FBI (or anyone) asks the public to start accusing people.

If you know something, get that information to the FBI and do nothing other than cooperate as required.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Arrest all the brown people and anyone seen with a backpack.

If they didn't do anything wrong, they have nothing to fear, amirite?

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by neo45

Nobody on here edited any of the photos with MS paint, just reposted them from sites for those that were curious.

I see little difference between creating the picture and distributing said picture. Especially when a man's life is as stake.

The argument presented is that it's a harmless game where everyone is an arm chair detective. I disagree with that and propose that it can cause far more harm than good.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by neo45

The FBI often asks for the public's help. Especially in a time-sensitive situation like this

I would be surprised if the FBI wanted people pointing out suspects and drawing conclusions. They want more photos and information that will help them with their investigation (eye witness accounts, names of people in photos etc). I am sure they have enough people that can look through photos. I doubt that is a problem.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I would be surprised if the FBI wanted people pointing out suspects and drawing conclusions. They want more photos and information that will help them with their investigation (eye witness accounts, names of people in photos etc). I am sure they have enough people that can look through photos. I doubt that is a problem.

Bingo, the wider audience the photos get the quicker the people will be identified. The FBI clearly stated people should not post the identity of the people in the photos on the internet, and even 4chan and Reddit have rules saying the same thing.

[rayne008]

Apparently there has been an arrest made.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

I see little difference between creating the picture and distributing said picture. Especially when a man's life is as stake.

The argument presented is that it's a harmless game where everyone is an arm chair detective. I disagree with that and propose that it can cause far more harm than good.

I agree that whoever identifies this man should go directly to the authorities with the information, and privately.


BUUUUUT how do they identify these guys without seeing them? The FBI wants this done ASAP before anybody else can be hurt. For those complaining about people posting these photos on this forum, they should note that nobody in 30 pages has drawn a conclusion based on the photos

[gargamel]

The accusations against guys who are doing nothing other than being in public while brown are disgusting, but I don't think the FBI minds people pointing out a guy standing beside one of the victims while wearing a backpack that looks like the one the bomber used. They probably would have spotted that anyway, but they're not perfect and easily could have taken much more time to do so. Having more eyes on the photos can't hurt as long as those eyes are looking for something more than skin color.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Unless there's a picture of the person putting his backpack on ground zero its not going tts not going to be photo's that win the day, the photo's and the way that they are going is just going to cast suspicion on one group or one race "Look at this brown guy with the packpack" "This brown guy with a beard was looking suspicious and then vanished".

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I would think they're not only looking at CCTV pointed at the blast sites but CCTV from the surrounding area, identifying individuals carrying what they're looking for into the area, retracing their steps. From there you might get a licence number or car make. Or the person(s) took the bus/train and maybe you get a face at some point. Then you start eliminating possibilities. I would think camera's are going to be pretty valuable, one tool to be combined with all the forensics. But there is likely camera work of the perpetrator walking into the area. Its just a lot of detective work and elimination to get to the right frames.

Right now, it might be surprising there is no claim of responsibility. You would think the point of attacking a soft target like the Boston Marathon, probably the most watched and famous marathon in the world with all media attention focussed in that direction, would be to deliver a message. So far, no one knows what the message is supposed to be.

Cowperson

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

I see little difference between creating the picture and distributing said picture. Especially when a man's life is as stake.

The argument presented is that it's a harmless game where everyone is an arm chair detective. I disagree with that and propose that it can cause far more harm than good.

Plus with all the conspiracy nut jobs on the internet this will only add more insanity ammunition to their sheeple rifle. A rifle that they will continue to fire for years and years at a person.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by neo45

I agree that whoever identifies this man should go directly to the authorities with the information, and privately.


BUUUUUT how do they identify these guys without seeing them? The FBI wants this done ASAP before anybody else can be hurt. For those complaining about people posting these photos on this forum, they should note that nobody in 30 pages has drawn a conclusion based on the photos

Nobody was complaining about posting photos. The complaints are about the 'he's alone', 'he fits the profile', etc. garbage.

[taco.vidal]

Cnn reports an arrest has been made.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by neo45

Bingo, the wider audience the photos get the quicker the people will be identified. The FBI clearly stated people should not post the identity of the people in the photos on the internet, and even 4chan and Reddit have rules saying the same thing.

But they aren't doing that...they are conducting their own investigation and creating suspects. I am sure their MS paint photos are just muddying the waters for the FBI. Like I said the FBI have people that can look through photos. They need don't the internet to do that for them.