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Old 09-12-2010, 08:10 PM   #41
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So the top 30 are set for the 10 million dollar shootout in two weeks.

I just looked up the rules and they are as follows. The top 5 seeds will win the FedEx cup if they win the tournament, the others need help.

http://www.pgatour.com/2010/fedexcup...ner/index.html

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If this seeds win in Atlanta The following seeds can still pass him in FedExCup points

1-5 seeds None
6th seed 1st seed
7th seed 1st, 2nd seeds
8th seed 1st, 2nd seeds (3rd seed can tie)
9th seed 1st, 2nd, 3rd seeds (4th seed can tie)
10-14 seeds
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th seeds (5th seed can tie)
15-30 seeds 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th seeds (6th seed can tie)
And the top 30 seeds are....

1. Matt Kuchar
2. Dustin Johnson
3. Charley Hoffman
4. Steve Stricker
5. Paul Casey

6. Jason Day
7. Luke Donald
8. Ernie Els
9. Martin Laird
10. Phil Mickleson
11. Jim Furyk
12. Geoff Ogilvy
13. Justin Rose
14. Adam Scott
15. Hunter Mahan
16. Ryan Palmer
17. Retief Goosen
18. Bubba Watson
19. Zach Johnson
20. Kevin Na
21. Tim Clark
22. Ben Crane
23. KJ Choi
24. Jeff Overton
25. Camilo Villegas
26. Ryan Moore
27. Robert Allenby
28. Nick Watney
29. Kevin Streelman
30. Bo Van Pelt
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:51 PM   #42
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It's incredible to me that Tiger Woods can have the season he had (didn't play early in the year, bad in the middle...his words) and still be #1 ranked in the world. I think they have to look at their ranking system a little bit. His record over the past 15 years should probably be taken into account, but if he has zero wins all season, and Phil can be 5th in money and still not catch him, I think something needs to be altered a little bit. He may be the best golfer over the last 15 years, but he certainly isn't right now. And I'm a Tiger fan.

Talk about parity though; nobody has won more than two tournaments all season long.
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:52 PM   #43
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It's incredible to me that Tiger Woods can have the season he had (didn't play early in the year, bad in the middle...his words) and still be #1 ranked in the world. I think they have to look at their ranking system a little bit. His record over the past 15 years should probably be taken into account, but if he has zero wins all season, and Phil can be 5th in money and still not catch him, I think something needs to be altered a little bit. He may be the best golfer over the last 15 years, but he certainly isn't right now. And I'm a Tiger fan.

Talk about parity though; nobody has won more than two tournaments all season long.
This made me think about what the rankings would look like if they turned into a 52-week (1 year) rolling average instead of 104 weeks (2 year). I left point depreciation the same and made the minimum number of tournaments 20 instead of 40 and came out with this as a top-10.

1. Lee Westwood - 14.92 (up from #3)
2. Phil Mickelson - 13.04 (remains at #2)
3. Martin Kaymer - 11.39 (up from #6)
4. Steve Stricker - 10.12 (remains at #4)
5. Matt Kuchar - 9.61 (up from #11)
6. Rory McIlroy - 9.44 (up from #7)
7. Jim Furyk - 9.36 (down from #5)
8. Ernie Els - 8.75 (up from #10)
9. Dustin Johnson - 8.69 (up from #24)
10. Graeme McDowell - 8.59 (up from #14)
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19. Tiger Woods - 6.70 (down from #1)

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Old 09-13-2010, 01:56 PM   #44
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Here's an interesting comparison of Tiger's and Phil's rounds in majors this year.

Tiger: 68-70-70-69
74-72-66-75
67-73-73-72
71-70-72-73

Phil: 67-71-67-67
75-66-73-73
73-71-70-75
73-69-73-67

Up until the final round of the PGA Championship, Tiger was actually better than Phil by 1 stroke.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:20 PM   #45
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This made me think about what the rankings would look like if they turned into a 52-week (1 year) rolling average instead of 104 weeks (2 year). I left point depreciation the same and made the minimum number of tournaments 20 instead of 40 and came out with this as a top-10.

1. Lee Westwood - 14.92 (up from #3)
2. Phil Mickelson - 13.04 (remains at #2)
3. Martin Kaymer - 11.39 (up from #6)
4. Steve Stricker - 10.12 (remains at #4)
5. Matt Kuchar - 9.61 (up from #11)
6. Rory McIlroy - 9.44 (up from #7)
7. Jim Furyk - 9.36 (down from #5)
8. Ernie Els - 8.75 (up from #10)
9. Dustin Johnson - 8.69 (up from #24)
10. Graeme McDowell - 8.59 (up from #14)
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19. Tiger Woods - 6.70 (down from #1)
Thanks for the analysis, that just seems a lot more realistic to what is actually going on right now. Those are the names that are consistently at the top of leaderboards these days. I didn't know how they were calculated though...so right now it's a two year cycle? Hmm, interesting. A lot can happen over the course of a year, or an off-season as we've seen. I like your rankings better.

Another interesting thing about that: Mickelson 40, Stricker 43, Furyk 40, Els 40. Goes to show that guys can still be extremely elite into their 40s. Tiger still has a ton of time.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:32 AM   #46
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Thanks for the analysis, that just seems a lot more realistic to what is actually going on right now. Those are the names that are consistently at the top of leaderboards these days. I didn't know how they were calculated though...so right now it's a two year cycle? Hmm, interesting. A lot can happen over the course of a year, or an off-season as we've seen. I like your rankings better.

Another interesting thing about that: Mickelson 40, Stricker 43, Furyk 40, Els 40. Goes to show that guys can still be extremely elite into their 40s. Tiger still has a ton of time.
Gives me hope that I can still make it!
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:55 PM   #47
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crazy leaderboard

of the top 5 guys who could win the FedEx Cup if they win the tournament, 4 have bombed

Casey is the only survivor tied for the lead at -4

Hoffman's at +2
Kuchar, Stricker and D.Johnson are at +3

There's going to be some crazy calculations this weekend but at the moment, Casey has the #1 beside his name.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:44 PM   #48
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Casey has fallen back as well but Hoffman is back in it at -2

Going to be a wild scramble on the weekend for about 12 million dollars!

FedEx Cup projected rank in brackets

(2) Jim Furyk -8
(1) Luke Donald -8
(9) Geoff Ogilvy -7
(11) K.J. Choi -4
(14) Retief Goosen -3
(15) Kevin Na -3
(6) Paul Casey -3
(5) Charlie Hoffman -2

(8) Jason Day -2
(19) Ben Crane E
(22) Kevin Streelman E
(16) Hunter Mahan E
(24) Robert Allenby +1
(11) Phil Mickelson +1
(7) Steve Stricker +2
(17) Justin Rose +2
(3) Matt Kuchar +2
(26) Camillo Villegas +2
(10) Ernie Els +2
(27) Ryan Moore +2
(29) Bo Van Pelt +3
(23) Tim Clark +3
(21) Bubba Watson +4
(4) Dustin Johnson +4
(28) Jeff Overton +5
(18) Adam Scott +5
(30) Nick Watney +5
(24) Zach Johnson +6
(20) Ryan Palmer +6
(12) Martin Laird +8
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Old 09-26-2010, 03:33 PM   #49
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Jim Furyk saves par out of the bunker to win the Tour Championship and the FedEx Cup as well ont a rainy day. He nearly threw it all away bogeying 16 and 17.

That was a $12 million dollar sand save!
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Old 09-26-2010, 04:37 PM   #50
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Was glad to see Furyk take it after all of that Pro Am fiasco a few weeks back... And he did it all with a $40 putter.
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