I spent 5 days in and around Mobile and it was very nice, anyone know how it bounced back since katrina?
I assume it's back to normal. I know southern Miss still has some damage and you can see the awesome (the people of edmonton would be happy) mobile homes that were from NO for the hurricane relief on the side of the interstate. It's like 1 mile long and probably 400-500 yards deep that you can see from I-20.
NO still has damage and the french quarters have some nasty buildings from Katrina still.
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Just a joke pal, I've been to all those states (Arkansas excluded) but my point is there's good and bad everywhere. It's not just an American thing, "bashing" in general is just a cool thing to do on the Internet.
Arky is a pretty crappy place. It's like a national pastime to park junk in your yards from the 1960's on.
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Killing Phelps would only cut off one head of the hydra. He's instilled his zealous spirit so far in his children that his congregation is a borderline cult. Killing him won't get rid of the venom. You'd have to kill each and everyone of his congregation in order to truly rout that poison.
You'd only make them martyrs, anyway.
The best thing to do is to acknowledge their existence, but ignore them otherwise.
As for the picketing plans at RJD's funeral, there are rumours of retribution planned. And Anonymous is involved.
Killing Phelps would only cut off one head of the hydra. He's instilled his zealous spirit so far in his children that his congregation is a borderline cult. Killing him won't get rid of the venom. You'd have to kill each and everyone of his congregation in order to truly rout that poison.
Pretty much. Shirley Phelps and her kids do pretty much all the legwork nowadays, and I'd imagine she's the heir apparent in that nut house.
I do feel bad for the younger kids that are involved in it though. In the BBC documentary "America's Most Hated Family" they show one of the kids (maybe 7 or 8 years old) who gets hit in the head by a full drink cup that was thrown from a vehicle toward the group during one of their picketing events. You'd have to think that these kids have been or will get pelted with much worse, and I can't imagine what their school life must be like (they all go to public school I believe). If any sort of violent retaliatory attack were to occur toward the group at one of their picketing events, there would likely be the small children that would get hurt or killed.
It's just too bad that these kids are being exposed to this sort of thing and being brought up to believe Fred Phelps' teachings.
Pretty much. Shirley Phelps and her kids do pretty much all the legwork nowadays, and I'd imagine she's the heir apparent in that nut house.
I do feel bad for the younger kids that are involved in it though. In the BBC documentary "America's Most Hated Family" they show one of the kids (maybe 7 or 8 years old) who gets hit in the head by a full drink cup that was thrown from a vehicle toward the group during one of their picketing events. You'd have to think that these kids have been or will get pelted with much worse, and I can't imagine what their school life must be like (they all go to public school I believe). If any sort of violent retaliatory attack were to occur toward the group at one of their picketing events, there would likely be the small children that would get hurt or killed.
It's just too bad that these kids are being exposed to this sort of thing and being brought up to believe Fred Phelps' teachings.
Yeah. From what I understand they take their kids to hide behind them. They know the law very, very well and skirt it all the time in these pickets.
They were sued a few years ago by a fallen veterans father. He won over 10 million in compensation, but a higher court order reversed the decision AND made the father pay the church's court costs.
Like it or not, the constitution protects evil speech like this. I believe we have 'Hate Speech' crime in Canada in which you can be charged with spreading hate. Please disprove this if you can.
He may be a loon, and he says horrible things, but I do not hate him like I did Falwell. Rev Falwell was a weaselly, evil SOB, that hurt (perhaps indirectly killed) a lot of young people... but Phelps is different somehow. I would genuinely feel sorry if Phelps was murdered. I was able to laugh when Bill Maher made fun of the news that Falwell passed away. ...maybe I was just too disconnected and angry then.
Also, I have been working non-stop lately, and I am going crazy.
He may be a loon, and he says horrible things, but I do not hate him like I did Falwell. Rev Falwell was a weaselly, evil SOB, that hurt (perhaps indirectly killed) a lot of young people... but Phelps is different somehow. I would genuinely feel sorry if Phelps was murdered. I was able to laugh when Bill Maher made fun of the news that Falwell passed away. ...maybe I was just too disconnected and angry then.
Also, I have been working non-stop lately, and I am going crazy.
The problem with Falwell was that he targeted mainstream Christianity and used his influence to brainwash a lot of people.
Phelps is just being a moron, and everyone knows that.
Like it or not, the constitution protects evil speech like this. I believe we have 'Hate Speech' crime in Canada in which you can be charged with spreading hate. Please disprove this if you can.
Phelps and his ilk have protested in Canada successfully a grand total of 1 time, in Ottawa. I don't believe our hate speech laws had come into effect at the time.
From what I can recall, they were planning to come and picket at Calgary's biggest Pride parade some 10 years ago or so? Can't remember exactly when. I DO remember writing then MP Joe Clark asking that he do everything in his power to prevent them from spreading their garbage. He wrote me back saying that 'although their message IS garbage, they and everyone else in Canada has free speech rights.'
They never did picket the event, though. Which I found alarming, considering that they were permitted to enter the country. But from what I heard, here's how things broke down:
They arrived at the Canadian border and they had a list of expectations from local and federal law enforcement authorities:
They would be given safe passage through.
They would not be arrested.
They would be protected should anyone try to harm them.
They would be allowed to attend the event. Their signs would not be confiscated
Of their expectations, law enforcement agreed to all but the one stricken through. Their signs violated our free speech laws and were confiscated at the border. They were also told that if they showed up at the event with new signs, that they WOULD be arrested.
If I had a family member being laid to rest after dying in a war zone and this ass hat and family was at the funeral I would be in prison for 100 counts of murder..
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You know, I pondered that Fred Phelps video all day.
When he calls down the people on that greyhound bus, I for one agreed with him, then I realized that until I was in the exact situation im not sure what I would do. I would find it hard living with myself if some innocent, a bus seat in front of me got hacked to death and I did nothing to stop it. Then again would I have the courage/stupidity to get between the crazy guy and the person he was murdering? Its a very depressing scenario if one ponders it, and even goes as far as to put a family member in the victims position.
I actually paralleled it to what I would do in an event my plane was hijacked by some terrorists.
In one way Fred Phelp's was right to call those people out on the bus, but would HE have done anything different? Probably not.
Its one thing to call a man a coward, then follow in his footsteps in the same breath.
At the end of the day, THIS is real life and 9 times out of 10 you get stabbed and possibly die , or you get stabbed and fly into a building and die. Jack Bauer rules don't apply to real life.
Where's that British sniper who just set the world record. Old Mr. Phelps take a Sunday stroll one day and all of a sudden his head explaodes like a watermelon. A mile and a half away our freindly neighbourhood sniper walks away and knowing he's done the world a favor. Or at least that's how it would play out in a action movie.
Where's that British sniper who just set the world record. Old Mr. Phelps take a Sunday stroll one day and all of a sudden his head explaodes like a watermelon. A mile and a half away our freindly neighbourhood sniper walks away and knowing he's done the world a favor. Or at least that's how it would play out in a action movie.
Not to downplay the marksman's achievement, but I can pretty much guarantee that wasn't what took place when he made his record breaking kill. Hell, when our own marksman held the previous long-distance kill record, it wasn't as glamourous as people think.
First off, our boys first shot missed.
His second shot was the kill shot, but it didn't even hit the enemy in the head. At distances like that, marksmen don't care about headshots, they just care about hitting the damn target.
As good as our boy and this Brit sniper were, a one-shot-one-kill headshot from a distance of greater than 2 kilometres is in the range of highly-unlikely-to-impossible.
