Embrace Diversity? More PC stuff

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by fredr123

At no point did I advocate what you are proposing above. I'll have to double check the links posted thus far, but I don't think they were proposing to use this data for that kind of thing either.

This is what's happening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirma...n_universities

Never read it before myself, but I'm amused that Asians are given a -50 on the SAT score to "normalize" them with everyone else.

Asians win!

[Matata]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Anytime an application for a job/school/scholarship asks me for ethnicity, I know I'm screwed because I'm Chinese, and it's no longer hip to hand everything to the Chinese on a silver platter, like for blacks and natives. (How's that for a non-PC statement? )

Majority of Chinese came to N. America looking for opportunity and a new life (and have done very well for themselves, depending on what context you use).

Blacks and Natives....well, never had much choice in the matter.

I should petition to get scottish added to these forms, I'll be damned before someone assumes I'm english.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by fredr123

At no point did I advocate what you are proposing above. I'll have to double check the links posted thus far, but I don't think they were proposing to use this data for that kind of thing either.

Whether they intend to use this data or not for such purposes as a white male I've learned that whenever anything asks for race or sex when applying for something I always leave it blank. Because that way I give myself the best chance of not being discriminated against on the basis of social engineering.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Whether they intend to use this data or not for such purposes as a white male I've learned that whenever anything asks for race or sex when applying for something I always leave it blank. Because that way I give myself the best chance of not being discriminated against on the basis of social engineering.

There's also the chance you might lose the benefit of some systemic bias favoring white males built in to the system.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by fredr123

There's also the chance you might lose the benefit of some systemic bias favoring white males built in to the system.

Or they might throw out your application altogether because it wasn't fully completed.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Or they might throw out your application altogether because it wasn't fully completed.

It would be rich if someone filled out the application wrong, and got in for claiming to be a minority and subsequently have to be turned down in person for being white. I smell press articles and lawsuits in such case.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Regorium

This is what's happening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirma...n_universities

Never read it before myself, but I'm amused that Asians are given a -50 on the SAT score to "normalize" them with everyone else.

Asians win!

Now that I think about this and fredr123's PAIX example. There is a case for them not to be classified as Asian because they would be deducted 50 points!

But there should never have been normalization in the first place! Look at the problems it causes.

Here's another story.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11192007...ity_970467.htm

You can help certain people but not others.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

It would be rich if someone filled out the application wrong, and got in for claiming to be a minority and subsequently have to be turned down in person for being white. I smell press articles and lawsuits in such case.

I can't find a link, but I remember reading a story about a white girl from South Africa who applied to an American university. For the ethnicity question, she checked the box that said "African", thinking nothing of it. She won a scholarship or something and then when they found out she was white, they had to take it away from her because it was supposed to be awarded to a black student.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Anytime an application for a job/school/scholarship asks me for ethnicity, I know I'm screwed because I'm Chinese, and it's no longer hip to hand everything to the Chinese on a silver platter, like for blacks and natives. (How's that for a non-PC statement? )

Pssh whateva man! Being Chinese and wearing glasses gives you all sort of benefits in life! When applying for jobs, people automatically think I'm good at math and have a strong work ethic. HA! I'll learn'em to stereotype me. I'll learn'em good I tells ya! Forget being PC! I'll take my advantage where I can get it lol.

[Option84]

Can we stop with these kinds of topics please? I swear this place is looking more and more like Stormfront.org everytime I visit.

[FlamesAddiction]

If they really must ask ethnicity on applications, then they should just have a blank field where you can write it in.

[Shawnski]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

Pssh whateva man! Being Chinese and wearing glasses gives you all sort of benefits in life! When applying for jobs, people automatically think I'm good at math and have a strong work ethic. HA! I'll learn'em to stereotype me. I'll learn'em good I tells ya! Forget being PC! I'll take my advantage where I can get it lol.

This from the guy that cannot spell "the" correctly...

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf3

well, then it doesn't exist for the engineering department. can't speak for the rest of them.

I am getting a science degree and I have to take a "humanities" option, which I chose to fill with philosophy rather than English courses.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Shawnski

This from the guy that cannot spell "the" correctly...

Solly. No speak English