The New iMac...Damn you look sexy

[worth]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

There's no need to gratuitously insult Mac owners. This a thread for Mac users to talk about the new Mac. If you want to bash Macs and Mac users, start a dedicated thread for it so I can avoid it.

I didn't, I said the people "I know" meaning the people who I associate with. That doens't have anything to do with you. I'm saying for their purposes, it works fine for them.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

There are numerous third-party manufacturers of multi-button mice for Macs.

Every iMac sold today comes with a 4 button mouse in the box (the Mighty Mouse). Macbooks use multi-touch on the trackpad to give you two buttons as well, you just have to enable it.

-Scott

[peter12]

Originally Posted by me_dennis

imo, their warranty is crap... my power cord on my macbook just melted and there's been many cases where this has happened before.. and when i bring it into an apple dealer, they say that they can't do anything because apple will not replace it... and the thing costs 100 bucks for a new one!

Are you on the regular warranty or the Apple Care Protection plan?
I've had nothing but good service from Apple in regards to my warranty coverage. Maybe you should contact customer service instead of going to a dealer.

[Regorium]

I think the moment the "mac community" stops spreading false rumours about the PC, then getting all defensive when PC users fight back, is the time I'll think about buying a mac.

Till then, they can take their slanderous and false campaign and overpriced (and underperforming) products elsewhere.

I have to agree it looks good though - is there any dual monitor support? I noticed the CPU itself is housed inside the monitor. For my purposes I need two and sometimes three monitors and I wonder if they have outputs for that.

[llama64]

Hehe, this thread just reminded me of this website:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....gi?u=macs_cant

Anyone who swears allegience to a commercial product has their values mixed up. That aside, are the iMacs actually worth getting as a home PC? Or is more of a kids/grandparents device? I've only ever used the full desktops (circa 1999) and some of their laptops.

[me_dennis]

Originally Posted by peter12

Are you on the regular warranty or the Apple Care Protection plan?
I've had nothing but good service from Apple in regards to my warranty coverage. Maybe you should contact customer service instead of going to a dealer.

i have the applecare protection plan, but it hasn't been a year since i purchased it yet so this should still be covered under factory warranty right?

[me_dennis]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Is it still under warranty? Was it under warranty when it happened?

Which Dealer?

yes it is still under the 1 yr factory warranty.. and yes it did happen under warranty.. i even bought the applecare protection plan..

i brought it in to westworld on centre street.. they told me that it was "physical damage" even though there are signs that the cord looks melted... i called apple to complain about the plug getting really hot and they told me that it was normal.. then sure enough 2 days later i found that the cord had melted through..

when i went on apple.ca to see how much a new adapter would cost, i saw that there were many negative comments about the adapter overheating, smoking, melting, etc.... to me this sounds like a defect.. potentially a fire hazard, and i don't know why there hasn't been a recall yet..

[BananaPancakes]

Originally Posted by me_dennis

imo, their warranty is crap... my power cord on my macbook just melted and there's been many cases where this has happened before.. and when i bring it into an apple dealer, they say that they can't do anything because apple will not replace it... and the thing costs 100 bucks for a new one!

Same thing happened to me. I called Apple around 4:00pm and they overnight shipped me a new one and I got it at 10:00am the next morning for no charge. (I didn't even purchase extended Applecare coverage)

Anyways, authorized Apple dealers are not responsible for the Apple warranty, asfk. I'd call Apple again and tell them there's no Apple store near you.

The new iMac looks beautiful though. I would jump on it right away if I was in the market for a desktop. iLife '08 has everything that I've been waiting for and more; new and improved iPhoto and iMovie =)

PS. I took some pictures of my old Melted Magsafe for those who are interested. The one they sent back seems to be a newer model with reinforced support around that area. http://flickr.com/photos/soyproject/1002071869/

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Regorium

I have to agree it looks good though - is there any dual monitor support?

Yes.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Neeper

I feel it is necessary to also have a windows operating machine for programs and certain thing I use my PC for.

Porn?

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Porn?

I'm confused.. why would you use a PC over a Mac for porn?

BTW.. Isn't the Mac now a PC since they're using Intel x86 processors?

[TheDragon]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I'm confused.. why would you use a PC over a Mac for porn?

BTW.. Isn't the Mac now a PC since they're using Intel x86 processors?

Some are. The irony being that the big seller with Macs is that Mac's can now run Windows because they have Intel processors in them. Apple actually took a lot of pride in being an independent company that supplied all of it's own parts to build their systems back in the day, too. I guess times have changed. That's why I like my PC. I've got HP, AMD, Kingston, nVidia and Creative Labs stamped all over it, and if something needs to be fixed or replaced - it's cheap and easy.

But whatever.

I actually don't have a beef with Macs are Mac users, nor am I trying to imply one is better than the other.

I do find it pretty silly when people think Microsoft actually makes PCs (which Mac's ad campaign is trying to imply time and time again,) or that they're somehow sticking it to Bill Gates when they buy an Apple, though.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by TheDragon

I do find it pretty silly when people who think Microsoft actually makes PCs (which Mac's ad campaign is trying to imply time and time again,) or that somehow think they're sticking it to Bill Gates when they buy an Apple, though.

Yeah I get irritated with a hardware company going after a software company.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

There's no need to gratuitously insult Mac owners. This a thread for Mac users to talk about the new Mac. If you want to bash Macs and Mac users, start a dedicated thread for it so I can avoid it.

It wasn't much of a bash but a legitimate observation, one which i agree with whole heartedly.

[FlamesPuck12]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Uhm.... you don't. When I bought my G4, I tossed the 1-button mouse in the garbage before I even left the store. Starcraft would have been absolute hell with a 1-button mouse.

If you are buying for games, get a PC.
If you are buying for video editing/multimedia, get a Mac.

Yea I was wondering about that. I love gaming so I guess I'll have to stick with a PC

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by TheDragon

Some are. The irony being that the big seller with Macs is that Mac's can now run Windows because they have Intel processors in them. Apple actually took a lot of pride in being an independent company that supplied all of it's own parts to build their systems back in the day, too. I guess times have changed. That's why I like my PC. I've got HP, AMD, Kingston, nVidia and Creative Labs stamped all over it, and if something needs to be fixed or replaced - it's cheap and easy.

But whatever.

I actually don't have a beef with Macs are Mac users, nor am I trying to imply one is better than the other.

I do find it pretty silly when people think Microsoft actually makes PCs (which Mac's ad campaign is trying to imply time and time again,) or that they're somehow sticking it to Bill Gates when they buy an Apple, though.

Apple has never supplied their own parts. They have always used either Moto or IBM Procs. Apple engineers work with the companies. The term PC means nothing. They use it because people associate the opposite of a PC as Mac. The commercials are not a dig on the hardware but the OS that 90 percent of the world uses.

They are not implying that the hardware is no good. There is no difference. The days of RISC vs CISC are dead. RISC won (save the xbox which is a hell of a PPC platform similar to my iMac g5). I'm fine with that.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by TheDragon

Some are. The irony being that the big seller with Macs is that Mac's can now run Windows because they have Intel processors in them. Apple actually took a lot of pride in being an independent company that supplied all of it's own parts to build their systems back in the day, too. I guess times have changed. That's why I like my PC. I've got HP, AMD, Kingston, nVidia and Creative Labs stamped all over it, and if something needs to be fixed or replaced - it's cheap and easy.

But whatever.

I actually don't have a beef with Macs are Mac users, nor am I trying to imply one is better than the other.

I do find it pretty silly when people think Microsoft actually makes PCs (which Mac's ad campaign is trying to imply time and time again,) or that they're somehow sticking it to Bill Gates when they buy an Apple, though.

i also find it extremely misleading for Apple to say in one ad that you don't have to worry about viruses if you run a mac, and then in another ad boast about how they can run windows. the minute you boot into windows you're just as vulnerable as every other PC out there (and the only reason that OSX is safer is because it's not as widely used). not to mention that every other part of that ad campaign is proclaiming how awesome macs are for all the fun stuff you can do on them, without mentioning that you can do all that and MORE on a PC

i actually don't mind macs though, they serve a purpose and are neat machines. the smugness and superiority that Apple and their fanbase display however is what i hate

[BananaPancakes]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Yeah I get irritated with a hardware company going after a software company.

In a recent joint-interview with Jobs actually described Apple as more of software company than a hardware company. He explains that a Mac is essentially a beautiful box, and what they're really selling is OSX.

Most of the Apple Ads are about OSX vs Windows anyways.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

i also find it extremely misleading for Apple to say in one ad that you don't have to worry about viruses if you run a mac, and then in another ad boast about how they can run windows. the minute you boot into windows you're just as vulnerable as every other PC out there (and the only reason that OSX is safer is because it's not as widely used). not to mention that every other part of that ad campaign is proclaiming how awesome macs are for all the fun stuff you can do on them, without mentioning that you can do all that and MORE on a PC

i actually don't mind macs though, they serve a purpose and are neat machines. the smugness and superiority that Apple and their fanbase display however is what i hate

This argument is just plain wrong.

eg: the only reason that windows server is safer is because it's not as widely used

Your conclusion doesn't follow.
Why then are there more succesful attacks on Windows based servers? Why aren't attacks successful on Apache based servers since there are way more? Shouldn't Apache servers get hit way more than Windows boxes?

This thread was not supposed to be about Windows vs Mac. If you want to make it that way you gotta come with more than "you can do all that and MORE".

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Apple has never supplied their own parts. They have always used either Moto or IBM Procs. Apple engineers work with the companies. The term PC means nothing. They use it because people associate the opposite of a PC as Mac. The commercials are not a dig on the hardware but the OS that 90 percent of the world uses.

They are not implying that the hardware is no good. There is no difference. The days of RISC vs CISC are dead. RISC won (save the xbox which is a hell of a PPC platform similar to my iMac g5). I'm fine with that.

You have that backwards. x86 platform is CISC. CISC won.