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flamesaresmokin · 11-06-2006, 12:54 PM

This team really faded down the stretch this season. They looked confused on offense for the last three or four games of the season and the defence that used to be so dominant for the last 3-4 years has dissappeared. There was no creativity with play calls excluding the drive where burris took off on a run a couple times. Why not throw som screen passes to guys like brett ralph and nik lewis, guys that can elude defenders. Anything to get some yardage. INstead its burris over the top and way past the receiver way too many times. No starting qb should be consistently overthrowing there recievers as much as he did the last 3 games of the season.

I can count maybe 5-6 games where burris played up to his potential this season and the rest he was average at best. Either the offensive co-ordinator has to go or burris does. This team should be a division champ this year and the next three but they are ****ing it away.

JohnnyFlame · 11-06-2006, 12:55 PM

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I have to wonder why Danny Mac was not brought in during the 4th quarter. I always felt a change in the QB might have made a difference in the outcome. It's not as if he was a rookie with no experience.

The Argos brought in their backup and look what happened.

That would have required a coaching staff who could think on their feet. The play calling was just horrific. The defensive calls were stupid. The decision to leave the king of the chokers in was again --STUPID.

The instant that the Riders scored that touchdown in the last few seconds of the 1st half I knew it was the start of the choke. But actually when you look at it they were choking way before that with the chances to put the Riders out of their misery but stupid playcalling or Burris choking cost them.

They need to bring in QB's and have two guys ready to take over from Burris by mid-season. Fire Burrato as he is an idiot. Give Higgins have a season to get them looking like a team with some character or can him as well. In fact hire an offensive coordinator who is a potential guy to take his job!!!!

Resolute 14 · 11-06-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

The city of CHOKERS -- been a title we have held for oh so long and it just keeps on going and going. How many times did the Flames have a great(Presidents CUP winning team) and choke.

Once, 1988, when they lost to the eventual champ. That team wasnt bad either, you might have heard of them, the Edmonton Oilers? The other time they won the Presidents Trophy, they won the Cup as well.

KTown · 11-06-2006, 01:17 PM

I'm sure when Casey Printers realizes hes not a good enough QB to play in the big leageues, he will be back in the CFL. Does that mean B.C. owns his rights if he comes back.

pepper24 · 11-06-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion_Iggy_Kipper!!!

Sweet, thank you Burris, knew you had it in you, thanks for the win. Good luck next week....wait, there is no next week for the stamps, haha, Go Riders.

The Riders needed 6 turnovers to squeak out a win. They are going to have to play much better next weekend or else they'll get destroyed as you know that Dickinson isn't going to choke like Burris.

calf · 11-06-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KTown

I'm sure when Casey Printers realizes hes not a good enough QB to play in the big leageues, he will be back in the CFL. Does that mean B.C. owns his rights if he comes back.

nope. He's played in enough games to be considered a veteran. This year being an option year, he would have had to go back to the Lions if he wanted to come back to the CFL. In 2007, however, he'll be considered a FA. If he only played in 1 or 2 games in the CFL before (I think the threshold is 6), he'd still be BC's.

Caramel · 11-06-2006, 02:19 PM

He continued to throw ints, even when we had a lead. I mean common, he couldnt even manage the game properly. He came out terribly, continued it throughout the game. We w here up 21-5 at one point, and his turnovers cost us, time and time again. He totally falls apart when the pressure is on, and I think we need to cut him.

philip1985 · 11-06-2006, 02:25 PM

Watching the game yesterday was really disturbung. I'm not a huge Stamps fan and as mentioned in the Flames talk maybe this will turn the season around for the Flames. Watching Burris though yesterday made me think, can the Stamps really win with this guy. Like his offensive coach said when he is on he is one of the best, but when he is off like yesterday he can cost you a chance to win. I'm not saying it was all Burris' fault but when you have 0 TD passes the past two playoff appearances your not going to win many games. Hopefully this off season the Stamps can acquire someone else, adn like smiling Hank go some where else.

JiriHrdina · 11-06-2006, 02:32 PM

Some interseting articles in the Sun today including the usual quiet Joffrey Reynolds expressing frustration at being underused in the 2nd half (he's right) and Ted Hellard promising changes. Worth reading.

Dion · 11-06-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Some interseting articles in the Sun today including the usual quiet Joffrey Reynolds expressing frustration at being underused in the 2nd half (he's right) and Ted Hellard promising changes. Worth reading.

I read that too. Reynolds have every right to be ****ed. Going strictly with a passing game in the second half made it easier for the Riders to defend against the Stamps offence.

What I found ironic is that Barrett put his faith in Holmes and gave him the ball in the second half and he was rewarded for his decision.

If you ask me the Stamps got out coached.

JohnnyFlame · 11-06-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Once, 1988, when they lost to the eventual champ. That team wasnt bad either, you might have heard of them, the Edmonton Oilers? The other time they won the Presidents Trophy, they won the Cup as well.

Yeah I remember 89 and I also vaguely remember choke after choke from then on till they faded into obscurity.

SaskaBushFire · 11-06-2006, 04:15 PM

You guys should model your team after a winner ... like I dunno, the Riders.

GO GREEN!!!!

STAMPEDRED · 11-06-2006, 04:18 PM

My takes from the game yesterday...

Stamps fans... ya, all you lazy, cheap morons who can't come out to a game unless the weather is 28C or better and can't shell out a measley $20 bucks to cheer on your home team in the only playoff game each year at home are just as fully to blame for teh loss if not more!

There was more frickin green in the stands than red! Why should this team even bother/care about trying to win a hime playoff date to not only get it, but have a lousy city of supposed fans that can't even muster up 35,000 people to cheer on OUR team and yet the whole province of Sask can show up and basically make it home field advantage for the roughriders.

I'm really getting tired of our prissy city that can barely show enough interest to support a team that really is doing pretty good!

If I was a Stamp I sure would be disappointeed in the loss but I would also be equally if not more ripped at the lousy city they represent that can't even make an effort to get off their couch and make it truly a home team advantage!

Dion_Iggy_Kipper!!! · 11-06-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper24

The Riders needed 6 turnovers to squeak out a win. They are going to have to play much better next weekend or else they'll get destroyed as you know that Dickinson isn't going to choke like Burris.

O.K.....it was 7 turnovers, Burris had an int. on the last play of the game. Gee. get it right. Squeak out a win, ya to bad we won by 9. And also, I believe we won 3 out of 4 against the Lions in the regular season. So, should be a good close game.

JohnnyFlame · 11-06-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by STAMPEDRED

My takes from the game yesterday...

Stamps fans... ya, all you lazy, cheap morons who can't come out to a game unless the weather is 28C or better and can't shell out a measley $20 bucks to cheer on your home team in the only playoff game each year at home are just as fully to blame for teh loss if not more!

There was more frickin green in the stands than red! Why should this team even bother/care about trying to win a hime playoff date to not only get it, but have a lousy city of supposed fans that can't even muster up 35,000 people to cheer on OUR team and yet the whole province of Sask can show up and basically make it home field advantage for the roughriders.

I'm really getting tired of our prissy city that can barely show enough interest to support a team that really is doing pretty good!

If I was a Stamp I sure would be disappointeed in the loss but I would also be equally if not more ripped at the lousy city they represent that can't even make an effort to get off their couch and make it truly a home team advantage!

I guess that would be a point if half of Sask. hadn't moved to Calgary.

SaskaBushFire · 11-06-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

I guess that would be a point if half of Sask. hadn't moved to Calgary.

Wrong again! Unless Calgary's population is under 200k!!!

transplant99 · 11-06-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I read that too. Reynolds have every right to be ****ed. Going strictly with a passing game in the second half made it easier for the Riders to defend against the Stamps offence.

What I found ironic is that Barrett put his faith in Holmes and gave him the ball in the second half and he was rewarded for his decision.

If you ask me the Stamps got out coached.

You know what....no he doesnt.

This is a guy that has put the ball on the ground 3 times in 6 playoff QUARTERS....simply not good enough.

Thunderball · 11-06-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by STAMPEDRED

My takes from the game yesterday...

Stamps fans... ya, all you lazy, cheap morons who can't come out to a game unless the weather is 28C or better and can't shell out a measley $20 bucks to cheer on your home team in the only playoff game each year at home are just as fully to blame for teh loss if not more!

There was more frickin green in the stands than red! Why should this team even bother/care about trying to win a hime playoff date to not only get it, but have a lousy city of supposed fans that can't even muster up 35,000 people to cheer on OUR team and yet the whole province of Sask can show up and basically make it home field advantage for the roughriders.

I'm really getting tired of our prissy city that can barely show enough interest to support a team that really is doing pretty good!

If I was a Stamp I sure would be disappointeed in the loss but I would also be equally if not more ripped at the lousy city they represent that can't even make an effort to get off their couch and make it truly a home team advantage!

Four points...

1. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Saskatchewan ex-pats in this city. Hell, Sask stopped growing around the Great Depression... where do you think they've all been going? Same reason why Leafs games are even ground, or like a home game for TO.

2. All Sask'wan has is CFL football... that's it. Calgary residents currently enjoy the CFL and NHL... and frankly, as a season ticket holder of both, the NHL is a superior league and product. Sports fans only have so much money, and split it accordingly between all the sports franchises, arts, etc. Sask ex-pats have one major league thing that they grew up with and love...football. So they gather all their rupees for when the Riders come to town, and there's a lot of them. Enough of which sold out of the game and prevented casual Stamps fans from buying them. The Stamps die-hards were there too. There was one crazy ******* in my section, or right adjacent (hard to tell, he was understandably moving a lot) not wearing a shirt, painted all in red. Good on him... I'd never do that.

3. If you noticed... the Sask fans were all in the cheap seats. The closer to the centre you got... the more Stamps fans there were. Therefore, this prissy city actually put its money together and bought the required pricey tickets to support their club, led by a god awful QB.

4. Who cares. The real winners were the city's bars, hotels and restaurants with all of Rider Nation showing up.

STAMPEDRED · 11-07-2006, 01:01 AM

^^^

Your point # 3 exactly!
There a re plenty of cheap seats at McMahon, a heck of a lot more than there is at the dome and for the most part a more entertaining packeage than what the flames sure put on lately!

There a re only 10 home games with a possible playoff date... costs around 100-120 for seasons tickets! And a city of 1 million people of which there has got to be at least 35,000 that care, but not enough to get off their polished couches, HD tv and go out and support the team.

I remember in the 90's when mcmahon got so loud that our own QB Garcia had to motion to the crowd to quiet down so he could call the play!

I noticed how easily Sask had with calling their plays as well as ours. Even with the stands 60-40 split in favour of green chumps it still got nowhere to the volume it should have on either side! And yeah we choked and Burris isn't the best, but it was nowhere close to the choke the flames put up in game 6 1/2 and 7 last year in the playoffs yet that was a sellout!

To me, this loss adds up a lot to brutal fans for our team! We are like our head coach who wants to put a muzzle on personality and just have the team go through its motions like it cares without being able to show it and most people in Calgary do the same! "Get Burris out-a-town but I'm not willing to support the team colours if he is here or not!"

For the turning point in the season, I think it really came down to Higgins pulling the plug on any sort of personality to be shown on the field. Our players play best with a swagger... and to prevent this the play calling and pass distribution goes to guys who are quiet and not-so-clutch as opposed to your play makers in Cope and Lewis and to which it seems that Cope will be on the hook for not being delivered the ball more frequelntly???

These two guys are and should be our studs, yet were not really used! Lewis has unbelievable hands and talent, yet we won't use him! Copeland much the same, yet lets not fully use him either! Instead, lets use some clown in Johnson who can't catch a frickin ball to save his life in the TO game as opposed to our play-makers!

Wonderful Coaching!

I would be willing to bet if the stamps coaching staff would get their heads out of their butts and call plays that will utilize the talent for all its worth instead of utilizing rookies for all they can't play?!? then it would be a much different story plus for fans to actually show up for games and be at least 30,000 people for the home side and make a difference instead of allowing the majoruty of the fans be green and riding the Burris jeer in our own turf!

/rant

ken0042 · 11-07-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by STAMPEDRED

There a re only 10 home games with a possible playoff date... costs around 100-120 for seasons tickets! And a city of 1 million people of which there has got to be at least 35,000 that care, but not enough to get off their polished couches, HD tv and go out and support the team.

/rant

Well, I gave up my season tickets this season because it went from $130 to $210 per seat. (Add ~$20 for no early bird, add ~$20 for no 3 year contract, and add $40 for the manditory playoff game.) That's what prompted this CFL fan to cancel his tickets.

Myself, I didn't go to the playoff game because by doing so would cause me to miss 20% of the remaining CFL playoff games. And I didn't want to miss the last Bomber game of the season.