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calf · 11-05-2006, 08:39 PM

The thing is, who out there would be able to step in and replace Burris? There's no quality free agent QBs, as far as I know. I don't think I'd want to bring in a hot rookie or former NFL'er to start. The only possibility (and this is such a small possibility), is to pick up one of the guys in BC, because there isn't enough room for Buck Pierce, Dave Dickenson, and Jarius Jackson...

btw - what a brutal game. Quite embarassing.

Dion_Iggy_Kipper!!! · 11-05-2006, 08:46 PM

Sweet, thank you Burris, knew you had it in you, thanks for the win. Good luck next week....wait, there is no next week for the stamps, haha, Go Riders.

Bench Warmer · 11-05-2006, 09:09 PM

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The thing is, who out there would be able to step in and replace Burris? There's no quality free agent QBs, as far as I know. I don't think I'd want to bring in a hot rookie or former NFL'er to start. The only possibility (and this is such a small possibility), is to pick up one of the guys in BC, because there isn't enough room for Buck Pierce, Dave Dickenson, and Jarius Jackson...

You're right calf. This is a major reason why I think Burris will be back with the Stamps. There's no way BC will trade a QB to a western team and their the only ones who may have one to spare. If Printers comes back, I expect him in TO. They need a QB worse than anyone (except Hamilton maybe...).

Shazam · 11-05-2006, 09:30 PM

If Jim Barker was actually doing his job, we'd would've had a cople of QBs waiting in the wings.

Burris isn't leading us anywhere but to sub-par seasons.

pope04 · 11-05-2006, 10:38 PM

Three picks and the (alleged) fumble aside, the play that stuck in my craw was the second down play late with the Stamps down by nine. Needing two scores, Hank was scrambling and had a ton of room - he could've probably run for 10-15 - but instead he threw the ball out of bounds in the endzone. Then Sandro missed the ensuing field goal. Hasta la vista.

Sinfire · 11-05-2006, 11:16 PM

Compared to what we had before, Burris has been a great addition to the stamps team. He just folded under the pressure today. What I don't understand is that if your QB is having problems moving the ball, why not put McMannis in. He may be old, but he is a veteran that is capcble of settling the team down.

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I wasn't sold on Burris when the Stamps signed him in the first place and I think this year proves that he is way too inconsistent to be a starting quarterback. I don't think Higgins has done a great job coaching this year (sitting critical defensive players during the year, and staying with Burris today even though it is clear that he is terrible).

I am a big Stamps fan and it is incredibly embarrasing to see Burris destroy our team and to see a defence that for the most part can't stop the run and has been bad all year against the pass.

Barker really has a lot of work to do in the off season!!!!! Hopefully his first move is to trade away Henry Burris!

Sinfire · 11-05-2006, 11:18 PM

Wasn't there a play in the second half where the stamps were 3rd and something. And instead of kicking a fieldgoal, they went for the gamble and lost. It is plays like that, that the coach gambled on and lost.

calgaryrocks · 11-05-2006, 11:18 PM

yeah that was ridiculous, if it wasnt for the returns we werent really in the game, burris had one good drive but that was it, that play just before the missed fieldgoal(what a time to miss for such a great kicker) where burris had room to run on 2nd down but threw to the endzone and it wasnt really catchable really upset me, then the missed field goal. brutal, i really hope they trade him to toronto or ham for...a bag of footballs?? thing is they would need to find another qb and none of the 3 they have are allstars. burris had a decent season but the stamps did so well in the season because of joffrey and he fumbled today, so the stamps had nothing

OzSome · 11-05-2006, 11:30 PM

He should stop going for the homerun all the time. What's wrong with throwing short passes. He should also learn when to take off (forward) and when not. For some reason we have 4 good receivers who are capable to beating every DBs in the league and we also have 2 capable RBs but Burris never utilize them properly.
Burris was not only at fault here. There are some bad decisions by Stamps defense as well. Stupid and bad penalties for being too aggressive cost them a touchdown before the end of the first half and that also gave the Riders momentum.
I can also blame coaching staff here and questioned why the heck Burris was still playing in the 4th quarter while we have a veteran backup QB in Danny Mac. I can see Stamps using Creehan as a scapegoat here by firing him. Mind you, i questioned some of his personnel moves this season anyways.

JiriHrdina · 11-06-2006, 01:02 AM

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Wasn't there a play in the second half where the stamps were 3rd and something. And instead of kicking a fieldgoal, they went for the gamble and lost. It is plays like that, that the coach gambled on and lost.

I don't recall this play at all. Did this happen? Coaching didn't lose this game and if Higgins is canned i'll be pretty unimpressed. A coach can't really do much when your team refuses to hang on to the ball.

Bench Warmer · 11-06-2006, 08:06 AM

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I don't recall this play at all. Did this happen? Coaching didn't lose this game and if Higgins is canned i'll be pretty unimpressed. A coach can't really do much when your team refuses to hang on to the ball.

The gambled and Burris fumbled.

ken0042 · 11-06-2006, 08:13 AM

My question is this- wasn't a Rider offside on that call? I noticed CBC stopped showing the replay before the snap because it did indeed show a Rider offside.

JohnnyFlame · 11-06-2006, 09:50 AM

The city of CHOKERS -- been a title we have held for oh so long and it just keeps on going and going. How many times did the Flames have a great(Presidents CUP winning team) and choke.

But they don't even compare to the Stamps who have an incredible legacy of choke. Heck even when they had Flutie they should have won more but choked it away.

The usual brutal coaching in a big game. Last few seconds of the half and the idiot dosen't have the endzone littered with DB's. So stupid. The playcalling in the 2nd half was bimbo like as it always the case. Burris was brutal and so was his offensive line. Defense of course coughs up the big play right at the start of the half to get things rolling.

Roughriders played hard and showed character -- Stamps as usual showed what they are made of -- characterless CHOKERS!!!!

BlackEleven · 11-06-2006, 10:22 AM

I think whoever would have won will get crushed by BC anyway. That said, it hurts to see the Stamps choke two years in a row. Choking and then losing is way worse that just getting thumped all game long.

Erick Estrada · 11-06-2006, 10:22 AM

There's a reason Rider fans nicknamed him Henry the 'Horrible'.

JiriHrdina · 11-06-2006, 10:26 AM

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The gambled and Burris fumbled.

Oh yeah, I guess I dont' look at it as a blown gamble - heck they had the first down. It was another bad turnover from the team's highest paid player.

calf · 11-06-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I don't recall this play at all. Did this happen? Coaching didn't lose this game and if Higgins is canned i'll be pretty unimpressed. A coach can't really do much when your team refuses to hang on to the ball.

I don't think Higgins will be canned, but I'm 90% sure he'll relinquish his head coaching duties and focus on his role as VP of Football Operations.

Denny Creehan is also going to be on the hot seat big time - there's zero excuse for fudging around with your linebacking corps so late in the season. Benching a veteran in Grace, starting a Rookie in Rodriguez, putting Trey Young in as LB when he hasn't played there in 2 years. Not playing Cornelius Anthony. Playing soft defence in the last drive of the 1st half. Getting away from blitzing and pressuring KJ.

Burratto is the most likely guy to stick around. I wasn't too impressed with the playcalling (not utilizing Reynolds, going for the home run/few crossing patterns, etc). But, there's only so much he can do, and if Burris and his receivers execute, we're not having this conversation.

Plenty of blame to go around, and there will be no shortage of changes this off season, imo.

Eagle Eye · 11-06-2006, 10:40 AM

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Oh yeah, I guess I dont' look at it as a blown gamble - heck they had the first down. It was another bad turnover from the team's highest paid player.

I dont know if I saw this play wrong or not, but why did Burris try to get a few extra yards out of that play, why not drop down after you got one.

It seems like Burris always tries to force things, sometimes he just needs to take the easy play, or throw the ball away when there aren't any options (like when you are about to be sacked)

JiriHrdina · 11-06-2006, 11:07 AM

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I dont know if I saw this play wrong or not, but why did Burris try to get a few extra yards out of that play, why not drop down after you got one.

It seems like Burris always tries to force things, sometimes he just needs to take the easy play, or throw the ball away when there aren't any options (like when you are about to be sacked)

Agreed. And it happened numerous times in the game where the Stamps put the ball in dangerous positions in order to get an unnecessary extra half yard.

Dion · 11-06-2006, 12:35 PM

I have to wonder why Danny Mac was not brought in during the 4th quarter. I always felt a change in the QB might have made a difference in the outcome. It's not as if he was a rookie with no experience.

The Argos brought in their backup and look what happened.