[News] C Tij Iginla is the WHL Player of the Month for November

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

He missed most of last season with double hip surgery, and most of the start of this season because he was rehabbing with the Utah Mammoth. He's only played 38 WHL games since we was drafted. He has 27 goals and 59 points in those 38 games, and just won the award for being the best player in the WHL during the last 13 of them.

For all intents and purposes, Iginla is only right now playing his D+1 year, which Parekh played last year. If it weren't for the age rules, Parekh would not be in the NHL this season - he'd have been playing for the Wranglers instead. There is a very good posibility that Tij Iginla is a top-six center for Utah in the NHL next season.

I'm still not convinced he's an NHL winger. I think it could depend on what Utah decides to do with Hayton and Schmaltz. But I would not be surprised he's a winger at the NHL level.

He's an excellent prospect. My point wasn't to suggest otherwise. I think Calgary loves Parekh and Utah loves Iginla. So there's no deal to be made.

Personally I take Parekh becuse I think his skill set is more unique.

But they are both fantastic.

[dino7c]

Complaining about the Flames winning "meaningless" games because Tij won an WHL monthly award is kinda silly was my only point.
Zayne absolutely destroyed the CHL...and yes he was younger. Not sure a major injury at a young age should be used as a good thing.
To say one is better than the other right now because one is lighting up a junior league at 19 doesn't make much sense at all.

And yeah I think he is proably an NHL winger, at least to start...maybe not. I don't remember saying not to draft him unless it was in a conversation where the Flames had a potentially higher pick.

They are probably two of the best players on Canada in a few weeks

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean they are the same age and and Tij is in the WHL...not sure how you can say Tij wouldn't have holes at the NHL level because he certainly would. If he didn't he would have made the Mamonth. Its more glaring when you play D obviously. The fact is Zayne had better offensive numbers playing D at a younger age in the CHL than Tij will playing forward.

Honestly they might both be great players but what Zayne did in junior is far more rare...record setting you might even say.

Crying? No one is doing that you clown.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Don't care about his last name at all or the lineage. Zanye's holes are glaring and in order to overcome them he's going to need to score a bunch of points, which I think he's capae of. Tij Iginla is just a well rounded player you can build a team around.

Honestly anyone bringing up his name as some sort of question of praise hasn't been paying attention to the discussion.

I think that's a little bit of stretch considering the sample size. There's also multiple players on Utah that they're building around that would take priority over him at this point (Cooley, Keller, Guenther). A key piece yes, but the single player you're building a team around? That seems like a bit of a jump this early on.

Anyways, not trying to trash Tij, I hope he has a great career and he & Joe will be Canada's response to the Tkachuk brothers but I think making this an extensive 'who would you rather' between Iginla vs Parekh seems pointless and premature given between the two of them they have 12 NHL games played.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Crying? No one is doing that you clown.

"shouldn't have won those meaningless games" kinda sounded like crying...call it complaining if you would rather

saying it because the guy won a WHL monthly award at 19 seemed kinda silly when we drafted the OHL dman of the year

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigThief

That's just bad analysis

Having an opinion that differs from yours is not bad analysis. This isn't an exact science, and both players are exceptional. Parekh had a much better D+1 year than Iginla (due to injury), so the suggestion is not at all unreasonable.

But speaking in absolutes is always fun, so fill your boots.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by traptor

We had our chance at Tij and missed it.

We went 4-2 in our last 6, one of which was beating the coyotes in game 80. We had no chance at playoffs at this point.

We actually could of gotten as high as Demidov playing .300 instead of .700 hockey. The Habs went on a full outs slide in the last 2 months losing 8 of their last 10.


The meaningless moral victories at the end of the seasons can really hurt..

And yet many regulars here love them.

Wins they won't even remember a month down the line are apparently worth missing out on Demidovs and Iginlas for.

Cray.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by traptor

We had our chance at Tij and missed it.

We went 4-2 in our last 6, one of which was beating the coyotes in game 80. We had no chance at playoffs at this point.

We actually could of gotten as high as Demidov playing .300 instead of .700 hockey. The Habs went on a full outs slide in the last 2 months losing 8 of their last 10.


The meaningless moral victories at the end of the seasons can really hurt..

They couldn't have lost that game if they tried (and they kind of did, with Wolf going .857 and allowing 5 goals).

[Groot]

Tij is playing at a 1.588 PPG pace, as a 19-year old Forward in the WHL. Take his injury into account and call it his D+1 year.

Parekh played his entire D+1 year as an 18-year old Defenseman in the OHL, at a 1.75 PPG pace. He also had a slow start, with only 14 points in his first 15 games. This means he played his final 56 games at a 2.02 PPG pace.

There is nothing crazy about the notion of taking Parekh over Iginla even if we had the chance, and thus far Iginla's D+1 (technically D+2) season is not even close to Parekh's (actual) D+1.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

And yet many regulars here love them.

Wins they won't even remember a month down the line are apparently worth missing out on Demidovs and Iginlas for.

Cray.

Again in this case this is silly considering who the Flames wound up with

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Remarkable considering his father was just some random Boston man that appeared on the news.

Ah yes...'local area man.'

One of my favourite local news weather reports of all time.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Groot

Tij is playing at a 1.588 PPG pace, as a 19-year old Forward in the WHL. Take his injury into account and call it his D+1 year.

Parekh played his entire D+1 year as an 18-year old Defenseman in the OHL, at a 1.75 PPG pace. He also had a slow start, with only 14 points in his first 15 games. This means he played his final 56 games at a 2.02 PPG pace.

There is nothing crazy about the notion of taking Parekh over Iginla even if we had the chance, and thus far Iginla's D+1 (technically D+2) season is not even close to Parekh's (actual) D+1.

The fact that Zayne has better numbers breaks any tie, especially considering the position. Who knows in 5 years but one is certainly more rare.

There is a time and place for complaining about "meaningless wins" but it wasn't in the final few games of that season. I bet the Avs are happy they won some meaningless games and drafted Makar. Sometimes you get lucky.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dino7c

"shouldn't have won those meaningless games" kinda sounded like crying...call it complaining if you would rather

saying it because the guy won a WHL monthly award at 19 seemed kinda silly when we drafted the OHL dman of the year

You were replying directly to me under my post and I certainly didn't say anything about winning meaningless game so yah stop the clown stuff. I'm also not saying it's because one of them won player of the month, that's just the thread that spawned the discussion. Like I understand you have the huge homer reputation you have to live up to but stop putting words and arguments into peoples mouths.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Again in this case this is silly considering who the Flames wound up with

I'm not going to get into the wins at the end of season argument but both Iginla and Demdinov are a step above Parekh in terms of potential IMO. I'd take Tij over Demdinov as well to be honest, and that's despite the Russian's great start to his NHL career.

[Kipper_3434]

What if the flames got 5th overall and took Yakemchuck or Catton instead of Iginla?

[Tbull8]

I like to think their list looked liked

Celebrini
Demidov
Iginla
Catton
Parekh

At least based on rumors of trying hard to trade up for Demidov, along with the Iginla and Catton surprises that they went ahead of the flames pick

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

What if the flames got 5th overall and took Yakemchuck or Catton instead of Iginla?

Catton's fine but Yakemchuck is... the biggest meh ever. Parekh is twice the prospect he is.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BigThief

I'm not going to get into the wins at the end of season argument but both Iginla and Demdinov are a step above Parekh in terms of potential IMO. I'd take Tij over Demdinov as well to be honest, and that's despite the Russian's great start to his NHL career.

Take whoever you like...Tij has never played an NHL game though. He should be dominating the WHL at 19. Fact is he isn't even putting up numbers Zayne did as a dman.

You are so offended I said crying instead of complaining but keep calling me a clown lol. If someone has a hunch Tij will be better fine...Zayne plays D and has better numbers, records, and major awards so far. Like I said they will probably both dominate in a couple weeks.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Take whoever you like...Tij has never played an NHL game though. He should be dominating the WHL at 19. Fact is he isn't even putting up numbers Zayne did as a dman.

You are so offended I said crying instead of complaining but keep calling me a clown lol. If someone has a hunch Tij will be better fine...Zayne plays D and has better numbers, records, and major awards so far. Like I said they will probably both dominate in a couple weeks.

I don't care about NHL games played right now, I'm talking about potential. And that's great Parekh is putting up better numbers as a blueliner, no one, myself included, is questioning his offensive upside. You keep missing the conversation. Nevermind that Parekh has played 12 so.. woop de do? But again, missing the conversation.

I'm not offended it just came across as stupid considering you replied under my post to me than attributed aa quote later on that didn't say. It's clown stuff. That's all. People keep calling you a homer but maybe you just never understand the discussion.

[stemit14]

It’s frustrating. This kid should be a flame. He wanted to be one so bad. The flames wanted to draft him so bad as well. Utah held him hostage at the draft and asked for an absurd amount from the flames to trade up.

In some ways, it’s too bad he’s such a respectful and humble kid. Otherwise he could have told Utah that he’ll never sign with them and made it clear he’ll only sign with the flames. Forcing them to trade him at a discount. Would be nice to be on the other side of one of those situations for once.

I’ll still hold out hope the flames find a way to steal him away from Utah one day. Hopefully as the last piece to the flames being a cup contender.