[PGT] Flames 1 @ Golden Knights 6

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

The HNIC panel seems to be questioning our leadership and the players not trying.

I thought that the reason we kept all these old geezers was for their leadership? If they aren't going to do anything then trade them while they still have value!

Yeah when all your key players and ice time leaders are 30+ don't be surprised when the bottom falls out. It happened to the Rags and Pens recently. I hope management isn't surprised by this.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I agree, it is going to take both of those guys (if they even can be regular NHL dmen) 2-3 years to be at all reliable on the backend. Might as well use them now over Bean and Miro.

What do their dads do for a living?

[Zamboniman]

They should try hiring a British soccer coach to coach the team. But they should make sure he can play darts, first.

[SuperMatt18]

I do think for the forwards a big part of it is nobody had a clear role or line.

Things shuffle every day, nobody really knows exactly their role, they are playing a very restrictive creative game still.

None of the forwards look good. Farabee and Sharangovich taking a lot of grief but they actually led the team in xGF% tonight.

I still think:

Huberdeau - Kadri - Sharangovich (Zary): Offensive starts and easy offensive minutes

Honzek - Backlund - Coleman: Defensive line and generally still the match up line.

Farabee - Frost - Coronato: More of the mixed bag 200ft line. Not going to get the toughest defensive match ups or easiest offensive minutes

Pospisil - Zary - Klapka: Go take advantage of favourable matchups against other teams bottom 6

[Strange Brew]

Sharangovich may have a worse contract than Huberdeau. His is just starting.

[PaperBagger'14]

Parekh had a few nice moments on the power play where he QB’d some slick plays at the blue line. He had a very natural QB flow when I saw him.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

The HNIC panel seems to be questioning our leadership and the players not trying.

I thought that the reason we kept all these old geezers was for their leadership? If they aren't going to do anything then trade them while they still have value!

Glad we kept Ras at last years deadline for all important playoff run to push up down draft order and tank his value this year……

[Aarongavey]

Flames will be completely ####ed to reach the cap floor next year if they trade too many veterans this year (if the vets actually want out). Losing Kadri and Coleman for instance would put them at 66.77 million with a 76.9 million dollar floor and nobody half decent to sign. They would almost have to retain salary just to reach the cap floor.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Flames will be completely ####ed to reach the cap floor next year if they trade too many veterans this year (if the vets actually want out). Losing Kadri and Coleman for instance would put them at 66.77 million with a 76.9 million dollar floor and nobody half decent to sign. They would almost have to retain salary just to reach the cap floor.

Look at the Sharks, it isn’t that hard.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Sharangovich may have a worse contract than Huberdeau. His is just starting.

Too bad they didn’t shunt him to Buffalo before his ntc kicked in. They seem to want anyone

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I do think for the forwards a big part of it is nobody had a clear role or line.

Things shuffle every day, nobody really knows exactly their role, they are playing a very restrictive creative game still.

None of the forwards look good. Farabee and Sharangovich taking a lot of grief but they actually led the team in xGF% tonight.

I still think:

Huberdeau - Kadri - Sharangovich (Zary): Offensive starts and easy offensive minutes

Honzek - Backlund - Coleman: Defensive line and generally still the match up line.

Farabee - Frost - Coronato: More of the mixed bag 200ft line. Not going to get the toughest defensive match ups or easiest offensive minutes

Pospisil - Zary - Klapka: Go take advantage of favourable matchups against other teams bottom 6

Shuffling chairs on the titanic - not bad but I think we should lose Sharky and Farabee. Zary should play up the lineup so that we can finally know what he is.

We need to start answering some of these roster questions!

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Sharangovich may have a worse contract than Huberdeau. His is just starting.

I genuinely forgot that we gave him a 5 x 5.75

Oh dear..

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I do think for the forwards a big part of it is nobody had a clear role or line.

Things shuffle every day, nobody really knows exactly their role, they are playing a very restrictive creative game still.

None of the forwards look good. Farabee and Sharangovich taking a lot of grief but they actually led the team in xGF% tonight.

I still think:

Huberdeau - Kadri - Sharangovich (Zary): Offensive starts and easy offensive minutes

Honzek - Backlund - Coleman: Defensive line and generally still the match up line.

Farabee - Frost - Coronato: More of the mixed bag 200ft line. Not going to get the toughest defensive match ups or easiest offensive minutes

Pospisil - Zary - Klapka: Go take advantage of favourable matchups against other teams bottom 6

I said in Bingo’s game takes thread, I really don’t think they’ve figured out chemistry yet, and it may be that they have too many similar guys. Backlund, Frost and Zary; Coronato and Sharangovich, Farabee and Coleman. And they really need to sit Lomberg.

[TheScorpion]

The thing about taking guys like Farabee and Sharangovich out of the lineup is the replacements aren't any better. Sure, sit either of them for a game or two, fine, but to their credit, they're right up there with Coronato and Kadri in terms of total chance numbers on the season. The problem is that nobody is doing anything, not just a couple players.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah those guys are easy scapegoats but they haven't been dramatically better or worse than any of the other guys in the lineup.

It's a team wide issue at this point.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I said in Bingo’s game takes thread, I really don’t think they’ve figured out chemistry yet, and it may be that they have too many similar guys. Backlund, Frost and Zary; Coronato and Sharangovich, Farabee and Coleman. And they really need to sit Lomberg.

IMO it’s less about being too many similar players and just not enough skill. If their players were too similar to each other, in theory you could address that through trades. But really no one is trading you more skill in exchange for most of the players you mentioned.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

The thing about taking guys like Farabee and Sharangovich out of the lineup is the replacements aren't any better. Sure, sit either of them for a game or two, fine, but to their credit, they're right up there with Coronato and Kadri in terms of total chance numbers on the season. The problem is that nobody is doing anything, not just a couple players.

Agreed, but this team has longer term roster issues to think of. Sharky is not a day to day NHLer. Joel is fading his way out of the NHL. Kerins and Stromgren are question marks - what else can they learn in the AHL?

It's like the Miro and Bean talk. We just need to rip that band aid off. Solo, Kuz and Gru are better investements.

[FlamesAddiction]

Team with superstars beats team without superstars. News at 11.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah those guys are easy scapegoats but they haven't been dramatically better or worse than any of the other guys in the lineup.

It's a team wide issue at this point.

Nothing in the AHL is going to fix that. Maybe nothing in the system is going to fix that.

So start playing those middle/replacement prospects and get rid of the vets that don't fit the long term plans.

[McG]

Originally Posted by Zamboniman

They should try hiring a British soccer coach to coach the team. But they should make sure he can play darts, first.

Field hockey coach too! Because it says hockey.