[Rumour] Flames and Andersson “not on the same page” for contract extension

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'd honestly take the Oilers pick in 2026 from them before I'd take the Dallas pick.



If they are willing to retain 50% on him then their is no reason the return at the Draft shouldn't be better than what they'd be able to get at the deadline.

And you'd avoid the risk of injury or anything else that could lower his value.

Edmonton is going to bend over to appease McDavid. Dallas is managed well and probably will make deals for long term health. Seems like a bit of a wash but Edmonton has a higher chance of falling off because of the back end.

[devo22]

I think it's for the best. I really like Raz, but I don't think signing him to an expensive 8 year deal makes much sense. I hope Conroy can get a good package for him (maybe at the draft), and I hope Raz can get the bag somewhere.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I'll miss Ras. But it's best for both sides to move on from each other. I hope it's resolved before or at the draft and not any later

[Reggie Dunlop]

Do it quickly then. Having the saga drag out for 3/4 of the season isn't optimal either.

[DreDayPucks]

Originally Posted by Toonage

My point is that Ras is healthy right now. If your plan is to trade him, and I believe it is, you don't risk taking him into the season where he could suffer a season ending injury etc. His value may be the same now vs at the deadline but there are 31 other teams in play now vs 16 at the deadline. I think they get a better return now too.

I get your opinion/point. Where I’m coming from is -If the plan is to trade him he may have more value at the deadline. He will be in a contract year, he has great incentive to perform for his next contract. The organization in this scenario prays he over performs, and increases his value leading up to the deadline. Personally, I’d rather have 16 playoffs teams bidding on him over 31 non-playoff teams (at this moment.) I think the returns would be higher due to the premium demand.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Would Boston move the 7th to bring him in? Seems like a move that organization could make, and history with Lindholm and Big Z.

I know it’s not rational but if I was Boston I’d hesitate about getting another Flame. They seem to be the anti-Florida in shaking the flames tree for fruit to pick.

[Vinny01]

If the Sharks are interested would they dangle a future 1st in the deal? Say a lottery protected 26 1st then unprotected in 27?

I am hopeful the Flames draft at least twice in the first round in every draft from last year until they move into the new rink

[Matty81]

The Flames can't help Edmonton out, I'd take a 1st from anybody over them... they have a 2-3 year window left before their two main pillars start to decline, probably steeply with all the minutes they are racking up - can't throw them a life preserver in that window. That is a team that is desperate enough to pay a 1st for a guy like Walman and don't have any quality youth or picks left for a few years anyway or anything to send back that they'd part with except for crappy veterans, if they call on Andersson should be a quick take a hike response

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Matty81

The Flames can't help Edmonton out, I'd take a 1st from anybody over them... they have a 2-3 year window left before their two main pillars start to decline, probably steeply with all the minutes they are racking up - can't throw them a life preserver in that window. That is a team that is desperate enough to pay a 1st for a guy like Walman and don't have any quality youth or picks left for a few years anyway or anything to send back that they'd part with except for crappy veterans, if they call on Andersson should be a quick take a hike response

San Jose owns Dallas 2025 1st and Edmonton's 2026 1st

The point was more that between those two picks I'd much rather have Edmonton's 2026 1st.

Dallas pick is locked in at 30.

Edmonton's pick could be anything, but at worst (and if the unthinkable happens) it would be 32.

But next year is also a deeper draft so possible that 32 next year could still be better than 30 this year.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

San Jose owns Dallas 2025 1st and Edmonton's 2026 1st

The point was more that between those two picks I'd much rather have Edmonton's 2026 1st.

Dallas pick is locked in at 30.

Edmonton's pick could be anything, but at worst (and if the unthinkable happnes) be 32.

But next year is also a deeper draft so possible that 32 next year would still be better than 30 this year.

Ah my bad I thought you were talking about their 2027 1st - seems like they're guaranteed to trade that away at some point this year. When the wheels fall off in Edmonton with how old that roster is, it's going to get ugly fast, but I think not for 2-3 years yet so I wouldn't gamble on their 1st. At least the end of that team is slowly coming onto the horizon though. But definitely the 2026 draft seems better... I like the top half of the 2025 1st round but really feels like it falls off.

[traptor]

To the Mammoth.


Iginla.

1 for 1.


They will be getting another impact forward this draft. They're primed to compete and rumored to make big moves. Iginla had a rough injury season. Lets go.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I still see a good fit with Columbus in an Andersson trade - especially after the rumour today that they are open for business. Their pick (14th overall) is in a spot that is not so valuable that it’s too much for a player like Andersson and they can afford that move. Plus they can afford to trade a young player or prospect for someone like Andersson.

Sillinger is probably the best fit for the flames in an Andersson trade. They were high on him in his draft year (ended up taking Coronato after Sillinger was picked). Flames would likely have to add to the deal if they were to get both 14th overall and Sillinger.

Bel Belluz and 14 would be a good package.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If the Sharks are interested would they dangle a future 1st in the deal? Say a lottery protected 26 1st then unprotected in 27?

I am hopeful the Flames draft at least twice in the first round in every draft from last year until they move into the new rink

Sharks or otherwise, to potentially have 5 firsts in the next two drafts...that's really exciting and will be the foundation of the rebuild.

Go have two drafts like the one we had last year, and this franchise will be in excellent shape.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Andersson to the Rangers for K'Andre Miller and Dylan Roobroeck.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Ah my bad I thought you were talking about their 2027 1st - seems like they're guaranteed to trade that away at some point this year. When the wheels fall off in Edmonton with how old that roster is, it's going to get ugly fast, but I think not for 2-3 years yet so I wouldn't gamble on their 1st. At least the end of that team is slowly coming onto the horizon though. But definitely the 2026 draft seems better... I like the top half of the 2025 1st round but really feels like it falls off.

You're also kind of hedging your bets if you have Vegas 2026 pick and Edmonton's 2026 pick.

Both of those teams can't make the conference finals, so at least one of them ends up being better than 28-32 OV.

So yeah for me if the deal is with San Jose - I would want Edmonton's 2026 1st before I'd want Dallas 2025 1st

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Andersson to the Rangers for K'Andre Miller and Dylan Roobroeck.

I could actually see something like

12 + K'Andre Miller + 43 for Andersson (50% retained) + 18

[Royle9]

I was never worried
*cough*

[Dion]

I always thought it would come down to dollars and term. Now we can let the bidding wars begin. In Conroy we trust!

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by traptor

To the Mammoth.


Iginla.

1 for 1.


They will be getting another impact forward this draft. They're primed to compete and rumored to make big moves. Iginla had a rough injury season. Lets go.

Would love this more than any other trade but, sadly, I don’t think Utah would do it.

[blankall]

I'm a big Andersson fan, but it's pretty clear he's looking for a big pay day. The Flames should definitely be moving on. The Flames can really use this as an opportunity to get younger and/or fill some holes in their roster. The Flames have two top tier defensive prospects in Parekh and Brzust. They can move on from Andersson.

[D as in David]

If Ekblad re-signs with Florida, a trade could happen by the draft. Otherwise, I think it happens on July 1st or later this summer. Ideally, there are a number of suitors.