[PGT] Wings 2 Flames 1 OT

[Toonage]

Mix up those lines in Columbus. Afternoon game post Thanksgiving? They'll need a boost

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I wish we could watch the over head camera for the entire OT...I bet you would see many of these infractions both ways

And I bet you wouldn't because players rarely jump the gun that much. Are people ignoring the pic? Ras and the forward coming on to the ice are already a stride or two away from the bench meaning Weegar was even deeper in his own zone when they jumped on. The reason you never see it called is because you never see it happen.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Hells Bells

Have Bean and Barrie been that bad that Hanley needs to play? He hasn't cost us anything, but the guy is just not on the level of Jake or Tyson.

I'd rather they bring up another forward they can plug in at times. Some forwards right now could use a turn in the pressbox. If Klapka can't draw in, bring someone up that can. Let Barrie/Bean battle for that #6 spot.

Have to agree. The team obviously can’t score

Hanley is not going to help with that. 29 points in 198 games. Bean double that, Barrie way more

[Reggie28]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Weegar is the one dogging it to the bench but he can't control someone jumping on the ice too soon to replace him. And that someone being Rasmus.

Corrected, should have said Weegar was coasting to the bench.

On a different note, the blown icing call changed the complexion of the overtime frame. Majority of control before, gave up a breakaway and then took the penalty and gave up the goal afterwards.

Regardless, the team has to learn to keep their composure and battle through when things dint go their way. Of course, that is easier said than done.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

They did wait for the Flames to have possession, but by then there was no extra man on. Soo..didn't infringe on the play in any way.

I guess tonight was a "let's call that thing we never call" night.

IIRC the too many men penalty can be called without the offending team having possession. Prevents a team from putting 8 guys on the ice with seconds left in a game that they are just trying to hold a team off from scoring.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Officials screwed the Flames in Ottawa, but not really tonight.

Put them down 1-0 after the wing fell because his stick was tapped,
Helped them tie it 1-1 on a strange face off penalty,
Sewered them in OT with a strange bench minor

Not great, but better than the other night.

Would be lovely if they kept their fingerprints off the games altogether, outside of irrefutable penalties.

[DeluxeMoustache]

It was a ridiculously 80s Oilers length change.

Just weird as Detroit was taking their time and the puck was nowhere near the play

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by D as in David

And I bet you wouldn't because players rarely jump the gun that much. Are people ignoring the pic? Ras and the forward coming on to the ice are already a stride or two away from the bench meaning Weegar was even deeper in his own zone when they jumped on. The reason you never see it called is because you never see it happen.

I saw the picture...I have also watched hundreds of games from the nosebleeds. Too much man is rarely called when it doesn't directly effect the play.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Put them down 1-0 after the wing fell because his stick was tapped,
Helped them tie it 1-1 on a strange face off penalty,
Sewered them in OT with a strange bench minor

Not great, but better than the other night.

Would be lovely if they kept their fingerprints off the games altogether, outside of irrefutable penalties.

That is an automatic though, like puck over glass

[Reggie28]

Why would the crypto king be watching from the nosebleeds? Spend some of that money and enjoy it!

[AC]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I saw the picture...I have also watched hundreds of games from the nosebleeds. Too much man is rarely called when it doesn't directly effect the play.

To be fair, it didn't appear too dangerous because the early change took what might have been a breakaway away from ever materializing.

Andersson is the one that is supposed to covering the lead Red Wing, and had Weegar even been at the centre line when the change occurs it's an easy breakaway.

Here's how far Weegar was when Andersson hops on:


I have more issue with the first Huberdeau penalty, where the Red Wing skates back into him. But so be it.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Reggie28

Why would the crypto king be watching from the nosebleeds? Spend some of that money and enjoy it!

talking in my younger years...I haven't paid for a Flames ticket or anything NHL other than food/beer since the Coleman "kick" though

I also really enjoy the first 3 rows of the bleeds!

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Always good for the refs to reflect on the fact that they are there in service of the game.

[Reggie28]

Originally Posted by dino7c

talking in my younger years...I haven't paid for a Flames ticket or anything NHL other than food/beer since the Coleman "kick" though

I also really enjoy the first 3 rows of the bleeds!

Fair enough.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I believe "by the book" is when the player is 15 feet from the bench the replacement player can jump on the ice. Weegar was 3x that distance from getting off the ice. To not make that call in this situation would be throwing the book away.

By the book it’s actually 5 feet.. which gets broken every shift essentially.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by AC

To be fair, it didn't appear too dangerous because the early change took what might have been a breakaway away from ever materializing.

Andersson is the one that is supposed to covering the lead Red Wing, and had Weegar even been at the centre line when the change occurs it's an easy breakaway.

Here's how far Weegar was when Andersson hops on:


I have more issue with the first Huberdeau penalty, where the Red Wing skates back into him. But so be it.

I have to be honest this picture doesn't even look bad to me...the two Flames are inches from the bench, puck isn't controlled by either team, the 3rd Wings player isn't even onside. Two seconds later might look worse for the Flames.

My only contention is they let it go often...Flames players aren't new, they are losing their #### because it never gets called. Do they have the balls to call that on McDrai in OT on a Saturday night in Toronto? I don't think so.

[Toonage]

Silver lining - 2nd place in the Pacific at US Thanksgiving

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I have to be honest this picture doesn't even look bad to me...the two Flames are inches from the bench, puck isn't controlled by either team, the 3rd Wings player isn't even onside. Two seconds later might look worse for the Flames.

My only contention is they let it go often...Flames players aren't new, they are losing their #### because it never gets called. Do they have the balls to call that on McDrai in OT on a Saturday night in Toronto? I don't think so.

Agree

Look at the Wings players, they are pretty much vertical, not striding meaningfully

Dumb by the Flames, weak on the officials

[memphusk]

Blaming the game on that call is Oiler type ####. Team wasn't good enough and made bad mistakes. Coach won't address the issues. It's time to change it up and they just won't do it. Kadri can sit in overtime. Huberdeau can sit in overtime. Until they start to bring something other than a warm body change it up.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Blaming the game on that call is Oiler type ####. Team wasn't good enough and made bad mistakes. Coach won't address the issues. It's time to change it up and they just won't do it. Kadri can sit in overtime. Huberdeau can sit in overtime. Until they start to bring something other than a warm body change it up.

9 points in 6 games lol

They are on a road trip, were they supposed to make changes before they left after winning 4 straight?