07-21-2023, 03:45 PM
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#41
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollie619
Hartley did a great job here. Hindsight is 20|20.
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Not really. Hartley had one winning season out of 4 and his overall record with the Flames was .498.
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07-21-2023, 03:46 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollie619
Hartley did a great job here. Hindsight is 20|20.
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Hartley has one of the worst records of all Flames coaches. And was a gigantic tool to boot.
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07-21-2023, 03:48 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
I haven't finished watching but feel Kerr missed an opportunity to go deeper with Conroy when discussing the Adam Fox draft. They talked about a player (I guess Grimaldi) that wouldn't come to CGY and Fox apparently didn't voice the same.
Dive in Kerr! That's a big issue not so much the specific but the bigger Canadian issue.
Or why did Fox change his mind (if he did) did he feel blocked?
It was put on a platter Kerr ...
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I think Kerr was trying to cover so much in a relatively short period, he couldn't dwell too long in one area. I get it, you have the GM there for a limited amount of time and want to touch on so many things.
I would have loved him to have taken a deeper dive on a lot of things, but I get it.
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07-21-2023, 03:53 PM
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#44
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Hartley has one of the worst records of all Flames coaches. And was a gigantic tool to boot.
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He was there with a blown up roster
Have a look
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07-21-2023, 03:54 PM
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#45
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All I can get
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The two hour interview with Craig Conroy was painfully short.
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07-21-2023, 03:59 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
He was there with a blown up roster
Have a look
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I was right here. And other coaches had worse rosters. Hartley had one freak season, coupled with the exact type of seasons that Ward or GG would have had with identical rosters, except they wouldn't alienate the entire roster.
At least Sutter didn't hide his nature. Hartley pretended to be Mr. Genial with the press and was an a-hole to the players behind the scenes.
BTW, his first year, Hartley had a lineup with Iggy, Cammaleri, Stempniak Tanguay, Hudler, Glencross, Gio, Jaybo, Stajan, young versions of TJ Brodie and Michael Backlund, and his goalie was Kipper. Not exactly "blown up".
He managed a .438 record. 2nd worst in Flames history.
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07-21-2023, 04:04 PM
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#47
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Anyone post the TLDR?
Missed this
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07-21-2023, 04:15 PM
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#48
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Originally Posted by saillias
caught the tail end. Rob was making a leading statement to Craig about how fans don't understand how important home playoff dates are. I know exactly what that means and I have no time for it. Glad to see he's never changed even though Fan 960 doesn't pay him anymore.
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I watched the entire interview and don't recall this being a topic of conversation.
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07-21-2023, 04:24 PM
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#49
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I watched the entire interview and don't recall this being a topic of conversation.
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I think he glossed over something like that after he asked if Conroy can use the word rebuild. Definitely wasn't a main talking point.
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07-21-2023, 04:39 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
Why are people ragging on Mackey?
He was an undrafted collegiate free agent who has got NHL games under his belt. That's a win. He wasn't a fit under Darryl, but he's a quality hockey player, who could still carve out a career as a serviceable defender.
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There is a bitterness likely that Mackey was the guy they decided to keep over 1st round pick Valimaki who quickly turned into a very good player in Arizona while Mackey was a dud until he was moved at the deadline. No fault of Mackey’s hit a bungle by Treliving and Sutter for sure
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07-21-2023, 05:02 PM
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#52
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All I can get
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Disappointed Conroy didn't discuss his favourite E=NG memes.
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07-21-2023, 05:27 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
I haven't finished watching but feel Kerr missed an opportunity to go deeper with Conroy when discussing the Adam Fox draft. They talked about a player (I guess Grimaldi) that wouldn't come to CAN and Fox apparently didn't voice the same.
Dive in Kerr! That's a big issue not so much the specific but the bigger Canadian issue.
Or why did Fox change his mind (if he did) did he feel blocked?
It was put on a platter Kerr ...
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Kerr said it was a first rounder (actually during the Gaudreau draft, who had a similar size to Gaudreau) and I couldn't figure out who it was. Grimaldi would make sense though.
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07-21-2023, 05:41 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PuckSlap
Of course he did. Journalism is dead. They lay off the questions that we really want to hear, and focus on #### that nobody really was asking.
He started off by asking if we were going to hire a women.. maybe 5% of fans actually care
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It would be better if they had an hour long televised season ticket holder q and as the questions would be much tougher.
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07-21-2023, 05:47 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Hartley has one of the worst records of all Flames coaches. And was a gigantic tool to boot.
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He was not great. He had the lowest percentage of seasons where his team made the playoffs off all the coaches who coached in the Treliving regime. Second worst in that regard was Sutter.
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07-21-2023, 05:48 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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I'm blown away there are actually people arguing that Hartley is a good coach!
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07-21-2023, 06:19 PM
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#57
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#1 Goaltender
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Loved the discussion about Huska and Andersson and how Huska rode him and got him to do what he needed to do to be better. That bodes well for the Flames.
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07-21-2023, 06:24 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxbuster
Loved the discussion about Huska and Andersson and how Huska rode him and got him to do what he needed to do to be better. That bodes well for the Flames.
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That story, combined with reiterating that there will be a captain and not committing to Backlund, leads me to believe that it might be Andersson.
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07-21-2023, 06:32 PM
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#59
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by butterfly
That story, combined with reiterating that there will be a captain and not committing to Backlund, leads me to believe that it might be Andersson.
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Did I hear correctly, conroy said “backlund could have been captain…” and then was cut off by Kerr.
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07-21-2023, 06:40 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Here are some tidbits I liked/found interesting: - Conroy had the whole staff involved in picking Trent Cull, so they would own it.
- Trent Cull's experience was what gave him an edge on other candidates
- The team looked for a coach that would be able to play the same system in the AHL like in the NHL. That was one of the questions.
- Pascal made a huge list of coaching candidates, which he then narrowed down, then the whole team took over.
- The assistant coaches in the AHL stay because they already had contracts, and Trent had familiarity with them. Trent said that the transition would be easier.
- Conroy thinks that Vegas played the same style this year as the Flames did in 2004. He wants the Flames to play that way next year.
- Conroy liked Daryl's culture, but not his environment. That's what he plans to change
- Conroy would've had a hard time collaborating the way he would've wanted with Sutter
- Conroy thought they should've practiced 3on3 and PP more last year
- Conroy can still try to sign Phillips next year because he's a UFA. Right now the team is a bit small, and he was only prepared to offer him a 2way.
- He would've liked to see Phillips get more of an opportunity last year
- Conroy discovered Duehr while watching Mackey. Thought he scored every time he watched him, and didn't play much despite scoring.
- Conroy's daughter thought he got owned in the Toffoli trade, and that he should've asked for a 1st and a 2nd. He was trying but picks were really hard to come by at the draft. Iginla was watching Sharangovich's video during that conversation.
- Conroy believes in leaving spots open for prospects. We will have less PTO's than before.
- PTO players are NHLers and often look better than prospects at training camp but don't have the same ceiling.
- It's great Wolf just keeps winning, but he wants him to play next year and have more than 15 games, so he's trying to figure out the best way to make that happen.
- It's great having the Wranglers in Calgary.
- Conroy and other staff get to be involved in the new arena planning, giving input regarding dressing rooms, medical, etc.
- Tod Button is still here because his picks often turn out into really good players. There were quite a few instances where the Flames missed on a player by 1 or 2 picks. Button is also very good at running the scout meetings etc.
- Fox didn't say anything about not playing in Canada in the draft interviews
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