Off topic, but years ago I remember reading an article about the large amount of oxygen3 on the moon, which could be used as a fuel source. That way a permanent base would be possible in the future.
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Can't you people see this is all part of a genius plan to eventually house all homeless people on the Moon? 40 acres and a moonicorn for every settler!
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Can't you people see this is all part of a genius plan to eventually house all homeless people on the Moon? 40 acres and a moonicorn for every settler!
I beat you to it! Read the thread grandpa!
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Trillions of public and private dollars spent on space research out of pretty much nothing but curiosity, while billions of people on earth are living in extreme poverty. Blows my mind.
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I always like these conspiracy theories, because not only is the immense technical difficulty of faking mind boggling, but the thought that a Government could create a conspiracy of that magnitude and keep it a secret is laughable.
Just the sheer number of people who would have to have been in on it keeping that a secret is patently absurd, then you have to take into account who those people are? All of those Astronauts, flight controllers, engineers, etc.
Even if they somehow impossibly managed it at the time, nobody is keeping that secret for 50 years.
Just...logistically it would have been discovered by now.
Thats why most Government conspiracies are laughable, Governments are barely capable of operating some of the simplest day-to-day functions, there is no way they could pull off something that complex.
I'm also a non-believer when it comes to those conspiracy theories. Nonetheless, are they actually more complex than the financing, technology, human resource coordination, policy etc. to get people on the moon?
The incredible can be accomplished with sufficient planning, resources, and execution. To say a government could coordinate landing people on the moon and bringing them safely back in the 60's seems less incredible than coordinating lies believed by the general population via centralized control of information.
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I'm also a non-believer when it comes to those conspiracy theories. Nonetheless, are they actually more complex than the financing, technology, human resource coordination, policy etc. to get people on the moon?
The incredible can be accomplished with sufficient planning, resources, and execution. To say a government could coordinate landing people on the moon and bringing them safely back in the 60's seems less incredible than coordinating lies believed by the general population via centralized control of information.
That kinda thing may work in China, but you can't keep a secret that big in the US. Someone always speaks. Then you have the logical improbability of it all. Many people watched rocket launches, so they actually built rockets to go tot space. You'd have to be a moron to discount that. So once you get that far, why is it so hard to make the next logical leap? And you'd have to make up a lot more elaborate stories to explain this:
That kinda thing may work in China, but you can't keep a secret that big in the US. Someone always speaks. Then you have the logical improbability of it all. Many people watched rocket launches, so they actually built rockets to go tot space. You'd have to be a moron to discount that. So once you get that far, why is it so hard to make the next logical leap? And you'd have to make up a lot more elaborate stories to explain this:
Haha, wtf? Seriously? That's your response to a facetious joke post?
Way to be a kind of a dick.
But, since you want to take it there, how is Edward Snowden perceived in the US? I'm sure he's celebrated as a hero for revealing the extent of oversight and manipulation that takes place in the US. An individual speaking out sure guarantees public belief and support. I feel really crushed by your Wikipedia link.
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Like the OP, the moon landing is also my favorite conspiracy theory. Given the technology of the day, it’s close to beyond belief that it was accomplished. In my opinion, the greatest feat in human history.
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The tech that didn’t exist (still doesn’t) in 69 was a lighting array that could hit a “set” with enough fully undiffused light to cast the crisp long shadows seen in lunar landing photos. You’d need a wall of light set up kms away and then no atmosphere to diffuse it. They never had such lights.
Faking the moon landing was impossible, not getting there.
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The urge to believe drives people to trade in part of their soul in exchange for the comfort of being a rebel. But that step, from knowing you’ve been lied too, to believing that everything else is a lie… is a big step
Once you’re forced to hypothesize all new technologies to keep your conspiracy possible, then you’ve stepped into the realm of magic. It demands a deep abiding faith in things you can never know.
It’s like you need to cling to your belief system with all your might, against the overwhelming evidence of your own rational mind. And some people do.
I've taken the plunge on moonlanding conspiracies and I'm 50/50 on the whole thing, it's certainly conceivable, but there are good reasons to doubt the legitimacy. Did you know that NASA destroyed all the original technology and footage from the first moon landing? For no good reason at all. It's also very odd how up to the moon landing, the USSR was leading the space race and had all the space "firsts", up until the US suddenly shot way past them and completed a flawless moon trip. The Van Allen belt is another tricky one, radiation experts are all over the place regarding what they think it would take to safely pass through it. Radiation is very hard on film, so it's also conceivable that they went to the moon AND faked the footage. I have no doubt that the purpose of NASA, to a degree, is funneling money into black operations. There's a ton of fake NASA footage out there (air bubbles on space walks, astronauts green-screening out, etc.)
Another fun one is the space challenger explosion and how nearly everyone on it has a living twin that is working in a similar field.
But what really messes me up about the moon is that it really shouldn't even exist. Out of every celestial body we've ever observed, the moon is by far the oddest: it's way too big, it's way too light, it has a perfect-circular orbit (every other moon observed has a wobbly, oblong orbit), the same side of the moon always faces the planet, it might be hollow (a NASA scientist that performed seismic tests on the moon famously remarked that it "rung like bell for 24 hours. The moon also has inexplicably shallow craters, implying a very hard structure beneath the dust). The moon also appears to be of identical size as the sun in the sky, as the sun is 400 times larger and 400 times further away (this one alone is so staggering improbable). The moon has a number of statistically impossible characteristics, and the summation of these characteristics is make it perfectly conducive to life on earth. I think the mere existence of the moon is the best evidence we have that life was seeded on earth by outside forces.
Haha, wtf? Seriously? That's your response to a facetious joke post?
Way to be a kind of a dick.
But, since you want to take it there, how is Edward Snowden perceived in the US? I'm sure he's celebrated as a hero for revealing the extent of oversight and manipulation that takes place in the US. An individual speaking out sure guarantees public belief and support. I feel really crushed by your Wikipedia link.
I didn't see anything joking in your post. I'm not sure how it's being a dick to point out only countries with heavily controlled media could pull that kind of deception off. It's not like they aren't currently doing it on other subjects... I'd throw Russia and North Korea in there, too just to say it's not only China.
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Trillions of public and private dollars spent on space research out of pretty much nothing but curiosity, while billions of people on earth are living in extreme poverty. Blows my mind.
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"Another fun one is the space challenger explosion and how nearly everyone on it has a living twin that is working in a similar field."
You conspiracy folks are fun. I mean, come on. That took 5 minutes for me to debunk searching on the internet. From what I can tell, none had a twin. Check snopes on this to explain the rest.
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