We have had submarines since essentially the Civil War, underwater pressurized dives suits since before then. ballistic rockets took massive leaps in technology since the V2 and the development of ICBMs right after that.
The bones of a moon landing were always there. The Cold War assisted in the technological leaps of rocketry and geo-positioning (Operation Paperclip). Coupled with an intense rivalry over landing on the moon, and it makes sense that a country would poor time and resources into sending a few people to the moon.
Why do it now though? is this related to future manned space flights to mars etc?
Just say that you found Oil on the Moon and America will invade it.
__________________ The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
The Following User Says Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
Estimated cost to end homelessness in the US: $20 Billion
Cost of a new telescope that takes prettier pictures of space: $10 Billion
As a species we are very smart.
Prettier pictures?
The US spends $750b a year on their military and a tonne of those costs are from ridiculous spending and fraud like the famous failed army uniforms($5b) or the $100b spent for failed reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan,so take it from them.
Or how about actually taxing people like Musk and Bezos more than 1% who seem to think because their employee's pay normal tax rates they don't have to.
Or how about raising money by taxing the churches, temples, mosques and their uber rich pastors, swamis and iman's ? Ending the free rides religions get could end starvation and homelessness around the world.
I could come up with 100's of things to save money and help the poor than taking it from science.
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Snuffleupagus For This Useful Post:
Estimated cost to end homelessness in the US: $20 Billion
Cost of a new telescope that takes prettier pictures of space: $10 Billion
As a species we are very smart.
Meh, you can't end homelessness in a way that is palatable, it seems.
I truly don't understand why we can't round up the homeless, warehouse them in Airdrie (with food, shelter, clothing, bed, running water, etc.) and allow them to leave once housing and a job has been set up. I understand some people can't work...let's build some indestructible buildings that can't be trashed and let them live there for free.
I'll probably get some hate for that, but honestly, I'm 45 and have been hearing people blather on about solving the homeless crisis for years. When I was young it was blamed on alcohol. Aged a bit and then it was crack. Got a little older and it was blamed on mental illness. Now are we at opioids? Meth? Cost of living? I've lost track other than to know literally nothing we've tried has done anything and - in fact - the problem gets worse with each passing year.
Is my plan kind of like prison? A bit, I guess, except the path to getting out is completely within their control. Especially once they get clean. If mental illness is holding them back, then we really need to fund permanent living facilities for them and allow them to enjoy life without having to pitch a tent on a riverbank beside a bunch of methed out freak-a-zoids.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Sliver For This Useful Post:
Meh, you can't end homelessness in a way that is palatable, it seems.
I truly don't understand why we can't round up the homeless, warehouse them in Airdrie (with food, shelter, clothing, bed, running water, etc.) and allow them to leave once housing and a job has been set up. I understand some people can't work...let's build some indestructible buildings that can't be trashed and let them live there for free.
I'll probably get some hate for that, but honestly, I'm 45 and have been hearing people blather on about solving the homeless crisis for years. When I was young it was blamed on alcohol. Aged a bit and then it was crack. Got a little older and it was blamed on mental illness. Now are we at opioids? Meth? Cost of living? I've lost track other than to know literally nothing we've tried has done anything and - in fact - the problem gets worse with each passing year.
Is my plan kind of like prison? A bit, I guess, except the path to getting out is completely within their control. Especially once they get clean. If mental illness is holding them back, then we really need to fund permanent living facilities for them and allow them to enjoy life without having to pitch a tent on a riverbank beside a bunch of methed out freak-a-zoids.
Maybe a bit further? If they ever got out they would be back in downtown Calgary in like 15minutes.
The moon landing is my favorite conspiracy because I just can't imagine the technology needed to do it back in 1969. I could have accepted maybe flying to the moon but the premise of landing, dancing around and taking pictures just doesn't seem possible to me.
Now 2022 NASA is launching a giant rocket heading for the moon but unmanned with 3 mannequins? Surely if we made so many trips back then we have the means and technology to not waste a launch on 3 mannequins.
If Orion's trip to the moon and back goes well, astronauts could climb aboard in 2023 for a lunar loop-around and actually land in 2025.
Can you imagine the technology required to fake it using 60s video technology?
When it’s okay if people die it’s much easier to do things. But all the early space missions were unmanned and had test flights.
Apollo 1 burned on the Launch pad. That is no longer acceptable level of risks.
Also in terms of duration it’s taking 2017 -2025 for Artemis to reach the moon. Compared Apollo started in 61 and took until 69 and didn’t have manned flights until 67.
Last edited by GGG; 07-21-2022 at 02:30 PM.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GGG For This Useful Post:
I can’t tell. But it’s flat earth level nonsense, so I hope so.
Yeah, if he's joking he didn't go far enough because it's just kind of sitting there not being funny. If he's serious, I'd like this thread to be locked because it's a waste of our time reading stupid nonsense.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Sliver For This Useful Post:
Meh, you can't end homelessness in a way that is palatable, it seems.
Off-topic but i typically find people that speak about the cost of ending homelessness (in comparison to other spending initiatives) wouldn't truly want to spend that money ending homelessness, but just want to complain about spending money on something else.
Refugees? why don't we take care of our own people first!
Even the photos I posted earlier...it would make zero sense. You couldn't fake a view of the Earth without somehow re-creating what the Earth would look like from the moon, meaning you would have had to go to the moon.
It still blows my mind we went there with 1960's tech, but believing anything else requires vastly larger stretches of the imagination.
Can you imagine the technology required to fake it using 60s video technology?
When it’s okay if people die it’s much easier to do things. But all the early space missions were unmanned and had test flights.
Apollo 1 burned on the Launch pad. That is no longer acceptable level of risks.
Also in terms of duration it’s taking 2017 -2025 for Artemis to reach the moon. Compared Apollo started in 61 and took until 69 and didn’t have manned flights until 67.
I always like these conspiracy theories, because not only is the immense technical difficulty of faking mind boggling, but the thought that a Government could create a conspiracy of that magnitude and keep it a secret is laughable.
Just the sheer number of people who would have to have been in on it keeping that a secret is patently absurd, then you have to take into account who those people are? All of those Astronauts, flight controllers, engineers, etc.
Even if they somehow impossibly managed it at the time, nobody is keeping that secret for 50 years.
Just...logistically it would have been discovered by now.
Thats why most Government conspiracies are laughable, Governments are barely capable of operating some of the simplest day-to-day functions, there is no way they could pull off something that complex.
__________________ The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
Off-topic but i typically find people that speak about the cost of ending homelessness (in comparison to other spending initiatives) wouldn't truly want to spend that money ending homelessness, but just want to complain about spending money on something else.
Refugees? why don't we take care of our own people first!
I don't even know if it's off topic. I've yet to read a thread on the Internet about space exploration without it being tied directly to homelessness. Maybe we can call it Cappy's Law or something.
I don't even know if it's off topic. I've yet to read a thread on the Internet about space exploration without it being tied directly to homelessness. Maybe we can call it Cappy's Law or something.
Well it seems to me that this is problem that is presenting its own solution.
We simply have to send the homeless into space.
Round them all up and fire them at the Moon!
The Moon could be their new home! Theres lots of space there!
__________________ The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
The Following User Says Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
I always like these conspiracy theories, because not only is the immense technical difficulty of faking mind boggling, but the thought that a Government could create a conspiracy of that magnitude and keep it a secret is laughable.
Just the sheer number of people who would have to have been in on it keeping that a secret is patently absurd, then you have to take into account who those people are? All of those Astronauts, flight controllers, engineers, etc.
Even if they somehow impossibly managed it at the time, nobody is keeping that secret for 50 years.
Just...logistically it would have been discovered by now.
Thats why most Government conspiracies are laughable, Governments are barely capable of operating some of the simplest day-to-day functions, there is no way they could pull off something that complex.
Not to mention the USSR would have had everything possible watching/tracking what was happening and been the first to point out if it was BS.
__________________
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity" -Abraham Lincoln
The Following User Says Thank You to Muffins For This Useful Post:
