02-27-2022, 10:17 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRed
He’s an incredibly agile and slippery skater, but I agree he often looks a bit chaotic. Why he left his feet on that play I have no idea. No way Hartman picked him up and threw him. Just a bizarre play all around
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Two things happened. Hartman and he were spinning and Hartman grabbed at his arm or stick (hence the holding call). And just at the end Kylington’s heel got caught in Hartman’s skate and that’s what sent him into the air.
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02-27-2022, 10:18 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Glad to hear that Oliver is going to be ok...it was a nasty impact and I was worried as he was motionless for a while (10-30 seconds) it seemed like to me.
The doctors will make the call of course, but wouldn't be worst thing to have him miss the Minnesota game...
I am hoping that Valimaki will pick his game back up - many people thought Oliver wasn't going to be a Flame much longer...so Valimaki can bounce back like Kylington did too.
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02-27-2022, 10:27 AM
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#43
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First Line Centre
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Hate to see him go down that way.
Dude is a big part to this teams success.
Get well soon Shilly!
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02-27-2022, 11:54 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Mackey is a LHD and deserves a callup.
Hoping Oliver sits , heals and returns healthy as we need him and he's been progressing so much and deserves a better fate .
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02-27-2022, 12:20 PM
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#46
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Crash and Bang Winger
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With Flames off today we won't know the real damage from the fall until tomorrow, but for now seems the concern is around head and neck as opposed to concussion. Although he'll have to clear protocol for that, too.
https://calgaryhockeynow.com/calgary...sion-protocol/
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02-27-2022, 12:36 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
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they could send Ruzicka down if they were really in a bind
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02-27-2022, 01:25 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
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I know Ryan Pike does his homework, and if he says it I believe him, but I would have thought that a callup would be pretty harmless to the cap.
Mackey has a cap hit of $912,000 which means he costs $5,000 / day. Surely the Flames can afford having him up for a couple days.
And as Canada 02 says, if necessary, they can also send down a forward.
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02-27-2022, 01:27 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I know Ryan Pike does his homework, and if he says it I believe him, but I would have thought that a callup would be pretty harmless to the cap.
Mackey has a cap hit of $912,000 which means he costs $5,000 / day. Surely the Flames can afford having him up for a couple days.
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That's not how it works. They can't recall a player unless they have sufficient cap space to pay him for the remainder of the season – even if they only intend to use him for a few days.
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02-27-2022, 02:59 PM
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#50
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRed
He’s an incredibly agile and slippery skater, but I agree he often looks a bit chaotic. Why he left his feet on that play I have no idea. No way Hartman picked him up and threw him. Just a bizarre play all around
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Agree with all points here. Didn’t think it should have been a penalty at all, Hartman did nothing. Really weird play
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02-27-2022, 03:03 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
Agree with all points here. Didn’t think it should have been a penalty at all, Hartman did nothing. Really weird play
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Yeah, it was a typical battle. I think they called the penalty more to just cool down the emotions at that point.
I imagine Hartman felt pretty terrible though,
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02-27-2022, 03:18 PM
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#52
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Yeah, it was a typical battle. I think they called the penalty more to just cool down the emotions at that point.
I imagine Hartman felt pretty terrible though,
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It was hard to tell from the video, but it does look like Hartman grabbed - briefly - onto Ollie's stick...might have been just enough to throw him off balance?
Certainly nothing deliberate there and can only hope that he's OK. (well, he is OK...but "OK".)
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02-27-2022, 05:19 PM
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#53
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All I can get
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Both Mackey and Valimaki are playing this afternoon in Abbotsford, FWIW.
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02-27-2022, 05:36 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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I hope they are over cautious. That looked terrible.
It’s not game seven of the Cup Finals.
Take your time to make sure he’s ok.
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02-27-2022, 05:46 PM
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#55
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Both Mackey and Valimaki are playing this afternoon in Abbotsford, FWIW.
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Is it fair to infer that neither will be playing with the Flames on Tuesday then, if neither were called? Would imagine they would want to maximize practice time with the team of the plan was to call up and play. Unless the Flames aren’t practicing today or tomorrow
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02-27-2022, 06:41 PM
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#56
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
Is it fair to infer that neither will be playing with the Flames on Tuesday then, if neither were called? Would imagine they would want to maximize practice time with the team of the plan was to call up and play. Unless the Flames aren’t practicing today or tomorrow
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Capwise, I think the team would cheap out and have player(s) called up for the shortest window possible. Saving even one day from paying out NHL salaries.
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02-27-2022, 06:58 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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There is no point having Stone on the roster if Mackey gets called up to play.
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02-27-2022, 07:02 PM
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#58
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
There is no point having Stone on the roster if Mackey gets called up to play.
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Stone is a RH shot...they will want a lefty with Tanev for sure.
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02-27-2022, 07:05 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by taxbuster
It was hard to tell from the video, but it does look like Hartman grabbed - briefly - onto Ollie's stick...might have been just enough to throw him off balance?
Certainly nothing deliberate there and can only hope that he's OK. (well, he is OK...but "OK".)
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He definately clamped down on his stick, it's a 2 min penalty. I agree he didn't intend for the aftermath to happen.
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02-27-2022, 09:03 PM
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#60
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
There is no point having Stone on the roster if Mackey gets called up to play.
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Sure there is. He is an insurance policy, if a dman falls ill or has an unexpected injury during pregame, or family emergency...
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