[PGT] Flames Lose 2-0 to Leafs

[Mass_nerder]

I said it after the win last night, but I'll say it again.

To win tonight, we needed to be better in two areas:
Zone exits
Winning races to loose pucks.

We weren't any better (until maybe the last 5-10 minutes of the game), and it showed.
3 games in 4 nights is tough though, so I get maybe not having the legs to win every race, but it felt like we lost almost every one.

[skcli]

My coilers friends are laughing at me every second day. It is becoming unbearable ! I need more whiskies.

[GranteedEV]

I would like to see Ritchie and Monahan and Gaudreau split up.

I'd also like to see Kylington back in the lineup. He brings an element that was sorely lacking today.

I wouldn't be opposed to Valimaki getting a night in the press box.

Nights like this do happen on 3rd in 4th nights. Hopefully iThat's all it was and not a trend.

[AustinL_NHL]

Last 4 games vs Toronto (5v5):

CF: 132-196 (40.24%)
FF: 101-147 (40.73%)
SF: 71-97 (42.26%)
SCF: 57-98 (36.77%)
HDCF: 17-38 (30.91%)
xGF: 4.03-7.41 (35.23%)

That is a whole lot of garbage hockey

[Flame On]

Did Dube ever come back after his lackluster effort clearing the zone?

[sticktrick]

That game was awful. Gaudreau is offensively sterile right now. Sutter needs to address a better use of the players and a better offensive pace. I like Sutter that he holds guys accountable, but he’s going to have to adjust those lines.

[genetic_phreek]

I hate to say this but Sutter coached teams historically don't have the strategy to come from behind. Watching us dump the puck when we have a clear path to skate it in, its going to be the death of us. Unfortunately we just don't have the talent or the heart in this core to play that Sutter style hockey. We are in for a dark few years CP so hang on.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I said it after the win last night, but I'll say it again.

To win tonight, we needed to be better in two areas:
Zone exits
Winning races to loose pucks.

We weren't any better (until maybe the last 5-10 minutes of the game), and it showed.
3 games in 4 nights is tough though, so I get maybe not having the legs to win every race, but it felt like we lost almost every one.

So many loose pucks lost. So many outlet passes blocked or deflected or outright stolen. This is all hustle and execution.

And, yeah they were tired but man, they are pro athletes.

[SeanCharles]

Too many shots right into Campbell’s crest.

PP is abysmal, it makes me so mad to watch it.

We need more offensive help upfront.

Ritchie is not helping that line.

So frustrating to watch this.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Last 4 games vs Toronto (5v5):

CF: 132-196 (40.24%)
FF: 101-147 (40.73%)
SF: 71-97 (42.26%)
SCF: 57-98 (36.77%)
HDCF: 17-38 (30.91%)
xGF: 4.03-7.41 (35.23%)

That is a whole lot of garbage hockey

Losers gonna lose

[ComixZone]

It’s going to be a weird run for the rest of the season. We know the team is in tough to make it, but we’ll cheer to the end while also knowing that some significant changes to the core are right around the corner.

Thought Rittich had himself a strong night.

I struggle to see how this team finds success with Gaudreau and Monahan on the roster. That “dynamic duo” is now the Duo of Disaster.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by skcli

My coilers friends are laughing at me every second day. It is becoming unbearable ! I need more whiskies.

You need new friends.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by TheRealPepman

I hate that losses like this happen. But either way, at least something fancy is happening here in Calgary. We're in a win-win situation.

If they play well, great, maybe an elite coach is what the team needed after all.
If not, great, let's find players that care and are willing to go with Sutter's flow.

Life is good.

The owners are smart. They know this core is weak and they need to get fans back in the building next year and a plan going forward as the new arena gets built.

Hiring an experienced (iconic in Calgary) coach like Darryl is about ensuring that season ticket holders renew next season.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Did Dube ever come back after his lackluster effort clearing the zone?

Yes, but on the 4th line. I had liked Sutter’s method of not benching guys for a mistake but for some reason he went away from it with Dube, who knew right away he’d F’d up (slammed his stick). Sutter’s played Kylington, Valimaki, Bennett and Lucic after some pretty bad errors that resulted in goals, so I’m not sure what the dif was. It downgraded the Lindholm line when they were trying to score.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

knowing that some significant changes to the core are right around the corner.

Are they?

[CSharp]

Cripes, why does the Flames keep losing battles in their own end? It just seems like the opposition teams have like 40-45 minute powerplay almost every game!

[BarDown]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Last 4 games vs Toronto (5v5):

CF: 132-196 (40.24%)
FF: 101-147 (40.73%)
SF: 71-97 (42.26%)
SCF: 57-98 (36.77%)
HDCF: 17-38 (30.91%)
xGF: 4.03-7.41 (35.23%)

That is a whole lot of garbage hockey

This is a situation where the eye test and advanced stats are totally aligned. Ugly games by the flames.

[dino7c]

Rittich was okay but both goals were bad...saved by the post a bunch of times

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You need new friends.

I worry about my son. I will do my best to ensure flames Fan hood, he already has abundant swag. But he is growing up among ravenous (,among other adjectives) oilers fans and I might be able to compete with them, but it's going to be hard with Connor mcdavid and our team being a loser.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

With tonight's result, the Flames now don't have a player in the top 60 in the NHL in points/game. Speaks volumes about what this team is lacking in the worst way: a true star forward.

Well, by that measure, they basically lack even first line forwards. If that is indeed true (and it sure looks like it is), then I'm not sure how anyone can support Treliving at this point (especially when we also seem to lack first pairing defencemen). We're seven years into his regime.

I beat this drum a lot but: I have ~thirty-three years of Flames fandom under my belt, and maybe three years out of those not characterized by disappointment and frustration. That's pretty rough. I haven't even lived in Calgary for over ten years now. Why do I keep doing this to myself?