Tom Wilson KOs Oleksiak - UPD: Oleksiak is dealing with a concussion.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I struggle to see how you think that because they both dropped the gloves it was a fair fight. He doesn’t see Wilson rushing in until he’s right in front of him while Oleksiak was back checking up the boards looking straight ahead and not at Wilson. I have no issue with fights in hockey but this seems to be a player picking their spot to gain an advantage on an unexpected player.

How come nobody on the "Dirty Wilson Play" camp is acknowledging Oleksiak asking for this fight since last playoffs. Commenting on Wilson not having the balls.

Do you really think they magically appeared on the ice together for the first shift of the game for the first time since those conversations and Wilson was out for revenge and Oleksiak forgot he ever made those comments? Cmon ... both players remembered very clearly what Oleksiak said ... this was no surprise fight.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You also have absolutely no way of knowing he got knocked out for a split second, as struggling to balance after a hit to the head does not in any way mean you were knocked unconscious.

I get that it sounds more dramatic, it just does not look like that’s what happened.

Look at the way he falls, he completely collapses. I have zero doubt he was unconscious. That’s a clear concussion as well

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Can't stand it when someone jumps a guy after a clean hit like that. I know it's far from a one off occurrence but it's really irritating to watch.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Are you joking? How did he instigate the fight? By throwing a clean hit and then getting rushed at unexpectedly? Alrighty then

Originally Posted by Ped

How on earth do you figure Oleksiak initiated that fight?

I am referring to last year. Oleksiak challenging Wilson and they never fought. Then all sorts of comments about Wilson not having the balls and Wilson not being able to run quick enough. If that isn't instigating a fight the next time you are on the ice together, I don't know what is.

As an example,
Dumba instigated the fight with Tkachuk for what he did the previous game.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I never made those comments
Fighting is dumb.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Travis Munroe

I am referring to last year. Oleksiak challenging Wilson and they never fought. Then all sorts of comments about Wilson not having the balls and Wilson not being able to run quick enough. If that isn't instigating a fight the next time you are on the ice together, I don't know what is.

As an example,
Dumba instigated the fight with Tkachuk for what he did the previous game.

Then fight him on a challenge, don’t rush the guy when he didn’t know it was going to happen. I can’t even imagine playing basketball and worrying about my position of the court and then getting rushed out of nowhere. Not at all a fair fight. Wilson was preparing for a fight, Oleksiak was defending himself.

[1Nite]

I don't see anyone getting "jumped" they both were aware who was on the ice, and both dropped their gloves. Wilson is a dirty player, but this was not dirty, and the Pens gm stating before that this goes back to previous times, and I think it almost looked like as he was holding the jersey, that Wilson might have even stopped him from falling completely on his face.

[Patek23]

Also anyone saying he was “jumped” please rewatch it. I will try to find a link to the video I just seen on Instagram but on another angle you can clearly see the two players exchanging words as Wilson was skating for him and Oleksiak was already watching him and beginning to drop as Wilson arrived. There was NO jumping. And again the hit before is irrelevant this is old bad blood. The people trying to push their false narrative is amusing.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

Also anyone saying he was “jumped” please rewatch it. I will try to find a link to the video I just seen on Instagram but on another angle you can clearly see the two players exchanging words as Wilson was skating for him and Oleksiak was already watching him and beginning to drop as Wilson arrived. There was NO jumping. And again the hit before is irrelevant this is old bad blood. The people trying to push their false narrative is amusing.

I’ll wait for the link

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Look at the way he falls, he completely collapses. I have zero doubt he was unconscious.

It really doesn’t matter how much or little doubt you have, and we can argue the physics of what happened if you want, but he does not completely collapse. He’s headed down and loses balance, and immediately upon hitting the ice lifts himself to his knees and elbows.

It doesn’t even matter, I guess, but I’m only mentioning it because you try to shoe horn it into your argument repeatedly to make it sound worse than it is.

Would we all be outraged if one of our players got knocked unconscious for a moment so brief that it’d be impossible to conclusively tell it even happened at all? To answer your question: no, probably not.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It really doesn’t matter how much or little doubt you have, and we can argue the physics of what happened if you want, but he does not completely collapse. He’s headed down and loses balance, and immediately upon hitting the ice lifts himself to his knees and elbows.

It doesn’t even matter, I guess, but I’m only mentioning it because you try to shoe horn it into your argument repeatedly to make it sound worse than it is.

Would we all be outraged if one of our players got knocked unconscious for a moment so brief that it’d be impossible to conclusively tell it even happened at all? To answer your question: no, probably not.

Arguing about consciousness is I guess pointless, Still doesn’t change the fact he got concussed and needed the refs to help him off the ice cuz he got knocked silly and dropped to the ground. I guess we can agree it was a flash knockout, maybe my wording was too intense.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Best part is Crosby chirping Ovechkin

Pierre just asked Crosby about it in the post game.

“Yeah I don’t know what he wants. I asked the ref about an instigator and he starts yelling at me. I came out here to play hockey, not chat with him”.

[Travis Munroe]

Go to instagram and search #tomwilson

Lots of angles show both guys knowing it was coming. Oleksiaks gloves come off first. Neither guy is any better positioned than any off the rush fight that takes place.

2 big boys, discussed fighting to the media, first game against each other and Wilson got the upper hand in this fight. Nothing cheap or dirty here. The fight wasn't a response to the hit and correct me if I am wrong but are there not penalties for fighting right off the faceoff in a staged format? This was the closest thing to staged without looking staged.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by stone hands

lmao at ovechkin to sid: why dont you fight me? stop talking

Alex yapping Sid leads his team to a win.

[DeluxeMoustache]

If he wasn’t jumped, how do you explain the fact that Oleksiak is skating in a straight line out of the zone, Wilson charges down the blue line towards the boards, initiates contract with him inside the zone, and Oleksiak’s momentum takes them halfway between the blue line and red line.

That is not a challenge and acceptance.

I guess Oleksiak accepted that the guy with no gloves on streaking in was going to be punching and he was going to have to defend himself one way or another

And to the gent saying Oleksiak instigated because of something prior to the game - I don’t think that implies an open standing invitation whenever Wilson decides it is go time. Players decline fights all the time

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Travis Munroe

Go to instagram and search #tomwilson

Lots of angles show both guys knowing it was coming. Oleksiaks gloves come off first. Neither guy is any better positioned than any off the rush fight that takes place.

2 big boys, discussed fighting to the media, first game against each other and Wilson got the upper hand in this fight. Nothing cheap or dirty here. The fight wasn't a response to the hit and correct me if I am wrong but are there not penalties for fighting right off the faceoff in a staged format? This was the closest thing to staged without looking staged.

I can’t find this angle where they are both talking to each other, it seems both gloves come off at the same time while Wilson makes a B line to Oleksiak while Oleksiak doesn’t notice him until he’s in front of him. That’s what I see

[Patek23]

I have no idea how to embed video but at the 35 second mark of the video you can see Wilson turn his head and begin speaking and skating towards Oleksiak off camera as Wilson closes in by the time Wilson begins to shake his gloves off Oleksiak has already dropped his stick. Anyone at this point trying to claim Oleksiak wasn’t engaged is just being ignorant.

https://youtu.be/Jvi5aKeYVVo

[zamler]

Being ignorant is giving Wilson any benefit of the doubt, for anything. The guy is a straight up cheap shot artist and by all accounts proud of it.

[Beninho]

https://youtu.be/G1vG5o8H22I

This is how you challenge someone, this is how fights in this league should be.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

I have no idea how to embed video but at the 35 second mark of the video you can see Wilson turn his head and begin speaking and skating towards Oleksiak off camera as Wilson closes in by the time Wilson begins to shake his gloves off Oleksiak has already dropped his stick. Anyone at this point trying to claim Oleksiak wasn’t engaged is just being ignorant.

https://youtu.be/Jvi5aKeYVVo

I frankly don’t see it at all, he could’ve just been mouthing something to himself. My opinion stays the same on this one. He was jumped, look at the video I posted and you will see the difference between getting jumped and a fair challenge and then a scrap. I guess we shall agree to disagree on this