12-19-2018, 07:55 PM
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Oleksiak's "hit" before that certainly wasn't anything I would expect a player to have to answer for. It wasn't Dumba crushing Backlund. You see that play multiple times a game without anyone dropping the gloves.
I generally like what Wilson brings to the game (obviously outside of the headshots), but he can't seem to get out of his own way.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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12-19-2018, 08:03 PM
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#23
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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
Wow there’s a lot of whiners in here. Would LOVE to have Wilson on the team. It’s a battle out there and he’s the kind of guy who you hate to play against but love to have with you.
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Because someone doesn't like an idiot like Wilson running around out there regularly hurting players it makes them a whiner?
Ok...
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12-19-2018, 08:04 PM
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#24
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Maybe these two have a history or a score to settle?
No big deal....couple guys throwin down.
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12-19-2018, 08:04 PM
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lmao at ovechkin to sid: why dont you fight me? stop talking
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12-19-2018, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Beninho
What I see is one of the dirtiest players in the league over past 5 years tracking down a player after a clean check and instigating the fight and then knocking him unconscious. Do you like concussions in the NHL? There’s a time for fighting but I did not understand the point of this one.
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Do I like concussions in the NHL? really? Of course not. It's also worth noting that there are more concussions from body checks than there are fights.
As for the hit... if you can say for certain that they didn't plan on this ahead of time as I believe Pierre aludes to from last playoffs then perhaps it was uncalled for.
The Caps are breaking out, 2 pens below the line so essentially a 5 on 3 and Oleksiak, a d man, goes out of his way to step up on the play leaving a 4 on 2 if the play goes on. It just seems there is much more to all of this.
If Bieksa steps up on a flame and Ferland goes after him we are all praising Ferland. Nothing was dirty about any of this play but because of Wilsons history, people can try to make it seem dirty.
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12-19-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Because someone doesn't like an idiot like Wilson running around out there regularly hurting players it makes them a whiner?
Ok...
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Really that’s odd.... could of sworn this was a thread about a fair fight that Wilson won.... not sure what anything prior to that has to do with the topic at hand except for the people who obviously hate the player to take their jabs. We get it you guys don’t like him. Has nothing to do with what happened tonight.
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12-19-2018, 08:16 PM
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#29
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Originally Posted by Travis Munroe
Do I like concussions in the NHL? really? Of course not. It's also worth noting that there are more concussions from body checks than there are fights.
As for the hit... if you can say for certain that they didn't plan on this ahead of time as I believe Pierre aludes to from last playoffs then perhaps it was uncalled for.
The Caps are breaking out, 2 pens below the line so essentially a 5 on 3 and Oleksiak, a d man, goes out of his way to step up on the play leaving a 4 on 2 if the play goes on. It just seems there is much more to all of this.
If Bieksa steps up on a flame and Ferland goes after him we are all praising Ferland. Nothing was dirty about any of this play but because of Wilsons history, people can try to make it seem dirty.
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I think you are grasping at straws with your argument, there was nothing wrong with what Oleksiak did. If they wanted to fight why not fight right off the puck drop? Seems like he’s picking his spot when Oleksiak was not ready. Oleksiak has a big height advantage on him, if they were to fight when both were squared up Oleksiak would’ve been able to gain wrist control better than he was able to as he was not set. Wilson used a hard check as an opportunity to catch him off guard. I just don’t want to see a player injured because they made a clean normal hockey play, which that was and then subsequently get knocked out because of it. Again, imagine Wilson knocking out one of our guys for making a strong check, this type of stuff needs to leave the league. You want fights? Go watch the UFC, I don’t miss a card.
Last edited by Beninho; 12-19-2018 at 08:21 PM.
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12-19-2018, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Beninho
getting knocked out cold
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Originally Posted by Beninho
knocked unconscious
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Originally Posted by Beninho
knocking him unconscious
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Having watched the video, I’m not sure you know what this means.
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12-19-2018, 08:22 PM
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#31
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Having watched the video, I’m not sure you know what this means.
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You can be unconious for a split second, that’s why he collapsed and why he could not regain balance when he stood up. Have you been knocked out before?
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12-19-2018, 08:23 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Maybe these two have a history or a score to settle?
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This. Apparently it dates back to the playoffs:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1075565223078170624
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12-19-2018, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Beninho
What I see is one of the dirtiest players in the league over past 5 years tracking down a player after a clean check and instigating the fight and then knocking him unconscious. Do you like concussions in the NHL? There’s a time for fighting but I did not understand the point of this one.
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Originally Posted by Beninho
I think you are grasping at straws with your argument, there was nothing wrong with what Oleksiak did. If they wanted to fight why not fight right off the puck drop? Seems like he’s picking his spot when Oleksiak was not ready. Oleksiak has a big height advantage on him, if they were to fight when both were squared up Oleksiak would’ve been able to gain wrist control better than he was able to as he was not set. I just don’t want to see a player injured because they made a clean normal hockey play, which that was and then subsequently get knocked out because of it. Again, imagine Wilson knocking out one of our guys for making a strong check, this type of stuff needs to leave the league. You want fights? Go watch the UFC, I don’t miss a card.
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We can agree to disagree because I think the upset crowd is grasping for straws.
Clean hit despite putting himself way out of position to make that hit? yes
Tom Wilson called out last year for not fighting Oleksiak? yes
First shift of the game, both on the ice? yes
Both drop the gloves showing both are willing? yes
Because of Wilsons past, people will find any reason to rag on this play. If you want to tell him he doesnt have the balls to fight Oleksiak in last years playoffs then don't get upset when he does.
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12-19-2018, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Munroe
We can agree to disagree because I think the upset crowd is grasping for straws.
Clean hit despite putting himself way out of position to make that hit? yes
Tom Wilson called out last year for not fighting Oleksiak? yes
First shift of the game, both on the ice? yes
Both drop the gloves showing both are willing? yes
Because of Wilsons past, people will find any reason to rag on this play. If you want to tell him he doesnt have the balls to fight Oleksiak in last years playoffs then don't get upset when he does.
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I struggle to see how you think that because they both dropped the gloves it was a fair fight. He doesn’t see Wilson rushing in until he’s right in front of him while Oleksiak was back checking up the boards looking straight ahead and not at Wilson. I have no issue with fights in hockey but this seems to be a player picking their spot to gain an advantage on an unexpected player.
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12-19-2018, 08:30 PM
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You can be unconious for a split second, that’s why he collapsed and why he could not regain balance when he stood up. Have you been knocked out before?
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You also have absolutely no way of knowing he got knocked out for a split second, as struggling to balance after a hit to the head does not in any way mean you were knocked unconscious.
I get that it sounds more dramatic, it just does not look like that’s what happened.
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12-19-2018, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Come on, now. Both willing? I didn’t see the challenge from Wilson. He streaked in with no gloves on at top speed.
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Yes, both willing.... in fact, the loser of the fight instigated the fight.
edit: instigated the fight for the comments made last year when Wilson turned down a fight with Oleksiak and this was the first time they have played since.
Last edited by Travis Munroe; 12-19-2018 at 08:39 PM.
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12-19-2018, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Munroe
Yes, both willing.... in fact, the loser of the fight instigated the fight.
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Are you joking? How did he instigate the fight? By throwing a clean hit and then getting rushed at unexpectedly? Alrighty then
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12-19-2018, 08:33 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Travis Munroe
Yes, both willing.... in fact, the loser of the fight instigated the fight.
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How on earth do you figure Oleksiak initiated that fight?
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