4 October — Practice notes

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

That's a good plan. I like it.

Another good plan would be to have a good PP that scores a bunch a goals so teams think twice about taking liberties that lead to excessive penalties.

For sure. Hard to think twice about taking liberties when you know your team won't get punished on the scoreboard

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Stanley

For f sakes give Bennett more ice time to bang around, he's the only guy out there that hits a la Ferland...would get the home crowd going too.

As awesome as I think Bennett could be on this team, the flames have clearly screwed up and peters has no plans to move him up the lineup. Czarnik gets playing time ahead of him, Dube just walks into a position above him, and honestly Bennett should for his sake just request a trade.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

As awesome as I think Bennett could be on this team, the flames have clearly screwed up and peters has no plans to move him up the lineup. Czarnik gets playing time ahead of him, Dube just walks into a position above him, and honestly Bennett should for his sake just request a trade.

He’s had multiple chances to prove himself over the past few seasons. In some ways he has. In other ways he hasn’t.

Just be patient

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

As awesome as I think Bennett could be on this team, the flames have clearly screwed up and peters has no plans to move him up the lineup. Czarnik gets playing time ahead of him, Dube just walks into a position above him, and honestly Bennett should for his sake just request a trade.

If by "walks into" you mean dominates training camp and the pre-season

At some point Bennett will get ice time, he needs to prove something. Guy will be playing against 3rd and 4th lines, if he is half as good as you think he should be dominating out there. Also, a 7 pp game is rare and I suspect more ice time next game for Bennett and his line mates.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What if Gudbranson beats up Prout too.
What then?
For that matter what if Prout beats up Gudbranson, takes an instigator and the Canucks win the game?
What then?

That's why you dress Peluso - for one game. To win the fight. The PK will gladly kill any instigator he takes. Flames chances of winning go up in this scenario - a lot.

[H2SO4(aq)]

He needs better linemates. And honestly Czarnik didn’t look good on the PP, if put Benny out there for unit 2 as well.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

He needs better linemates. And honestly Czarnik didn’t look good on the PP, if put Benny out there for unit 2 as well.

Czarnik had 30 PP points in the AHL last year, they fully intend to use him on the PP

I am with the camp that thinks Bennett needs a good stint with good line mates, and give him a fighting chance to meet expectations. Bennett and Janko both are young and have upside. Ryan is 31. He is known to Peters, but I don’t think there is a lot of upside there.

Also agree that if he keeps getting 4th line minutes, he should request a trade. And if that happens I hope he succeeds.

[Barca]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

That's why you dress Peluso - for one game. To win the fight. The PK will gladly kill any instigator he takes. Flames chances of winning go up in this scenario - a lot.

What if Gudbranson turns him down? is Peters gonna give him the ice time to run around all night?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

As awesome as I think Bennett could be on this team, the flames have clearly screwed up and peters has no plans to move him up the lineup. Czarnik gets playing time ahead of him, Dube just walks into a position above him, and honestly Bennett should for his sake just request a trade.

After one game you say Peters has no plans to move him up?
Come on.
First it’s veen one game
Second Sam needs to earn it

But it’s been one game
Pump the brakes

[Owen15]

Maybe unpopular but in my opinion Bennett and Hankowski were the only guys going for half the game. We got a glimpse of how this team might be in the third but overall they were pretty meh.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Owen15

Maybe unpopular but in my opinion Bennett and Hankowski were the only guys going for half the game. We got a glimpse of how this team might be in the third but overall they were pretty meh.

You must have a fat thumb.

[FBI]

Hanowski did look pretty against the Oilers though.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What if Gudbranson beats up Prout too.
What then?
For that matter what if Prout beats up Gudbranson, takes an instigator and the Canucks win the game?
What then?

The Prout's toughness is overstated, is, well overstated hes way tougher then Hamonic or anyone else on the team. He has wins over guys like Lucic and Chris Neil (among many others). Put him on for this one game and at least losers like Gudbransin will get popped in the nose if they do somthing stupid. Not to mention Prout isnt much of a drop off from Stone defensively from what ive seen.

[really?]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

As awesome as I think Bennett could be on this team, the flames have clearly screwed up and peters has no plans to move him up the lineup. Czarnik gets playing time ahead of him, Dube just walks into a position above him, and honestly Bennett should for his sake just request a trade.

You make a good point about the placement of Czarnik, and Ryan fits into that category as well, but I don't feel Dube is in that position. He appears to have the goods. Time will tell on Czarnik and Ryan, but it's debatable at this point to say they bring more to the ice than Bennett or Mangiapone. If you want to afford Czarnik credit for his play in the A, then it would only be fair to give the same credit to Mangiapone.

I'm probably as big a fan of Bennett as you are, but in reality there are some major holes in his game at this point. He has wheels, he's good with the puck, he competes and he's tough as a truck stop sirloin, but he doesn't play with pace and he forces plays that simply are not there. This results in inopportune turnovers which force his line to expend energy to regain possession.

This may be a product of trying to hard to produce, or maybe it's just how he sees or feels the game, but he needs to address the issue of patience while in possession if he wants to move consistently into the top six. Winning a shift doesn't necessarily result in a goal or scoring opportunity, sometimes getting off the ice without placing your squad at risk is as good as it gets. I don't think you want to neuter a player with the internal fire of Sam Bennett, but he has to learn to play a more cerebral game if he wants to ascend the depth chart.

I believe Bennett will eventually harness his game, I also believe he'll do this with the Flames, but part of the reason guys like Czarnik and Ryan were signed is because Bennett has not consistently proven ready for top 6 responsibilites. That said if Peters give him only half as much ice time as Czarnik and Ryan, he and Treliving may want to start gathering estimates from local moving companies.

[Love]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Neal should be with Gaudreau and Monahan.

Monahan is already slow as molasses, adding Neal to that line would be overkill. Load them up together on the powerplay.

Also, we need more angles to SHOOT on the powerplay. Lindholm and Johnny should have been swapped. Play players on their offwings for 1T's, and remove Brodie who is allergic to all things shooting. I'd rather see Hanifin, Valimaki or even Stone in his place.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

He needs better linemates. And honestly Czarnik didn’t look good on the PP, if put Benny out there for unit 2 as well.

While I agree with you that Bennett should get more opportunities I don't know if I agree about Czarnik on the PP.

He was constantly moving around out there trying to open up lanes. There was a time or two the puck rimmed around the boards past him because of this but I still liked how he was trying to open up options out there.

I like what I have seen from Czarnik so far.

Bennett, Jankowski and Dube will all get looks on the PP this year I'm sure. They will have to earn it however. Much like Hanifin and Valimaki will have to earn theirs as well.

I have faith they will earn it.