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Old 12-01-2017, 10:36 AM   #41
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The fact is Versteeg is a vet, and guys like Klimchuk and Mangiapane are competing for his job. Mangiapane especially is playing well in the A, so he 100% deserves a first look.

Now that Versteeg is injured, Mangiapane should be recalled and given the opportunity to stick around. If he's not performing to NHL standards though, and there is no one else competing for that job, then what do you do? It's good to have a vet under contract who you know can play NHL minutes fill in the gap until the AHLer out performs him.

I'm not convinced Mangiapane's skills will translate to the NHL.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:42 AM   #42
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It seems like there are a few guys down on the farm that are deserving of a look.

Mangiapane, Klimchuk and Hrivik to name a few. I also wouldn't mind seeing Poirier get another call up now that he's seemingly put his personal issues behind him and by all accounts has a good attitude and is playing well of late. Might help the team make a decision on him going forward as his ELC is finally expiring this off season.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:43 AM   #43
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Has Stone been tried on the PP? Put that booming shot on the point.
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No point in bringing up Mangiapane right now to play on the 4th line. If one of the top 9 players go down with injury then yes it makes sense to bring him up.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:50 AM   #45
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Say no to Iggy, who simply isn't a viable NHL player anymore,especially if you expect him to play any defence.

There is a reason he remains unsigned, and it's not simply because he is being choosy.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:55 AM   #46
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Hope he has a full recovery. An injury needing surgery might explain his weak play this year.

That out of the way..



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Why don't we sign Gretzky while we're at it? He's the greatest of all time, thus will be the best player on our roster!

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If so, I'd like to see Mangiapane get a call-up.

Big offensive numbers so far in Stockton for YeastMode.
Really, it makes too much sense that he be the guy for it not to happen.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:39 AM   #48
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Considering Iggy won't be ready for the Spengler then I don't think he's ready for nhl action.

Its really looking like his career is over.
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Mangiapanes numbers in Stockton. How would giving him a chance at this point be "gifting him the job"? It's a textbook case of a prospect earning a look.
Good numbers this year for sure. A big improvement from last season. Let's see if he can sustain those numbers. I think the Flames saw something in Mangiapane that they wanted him to work on, otherwise I think he may have already had his call up instead of Hathaway. He'll get his chance. It doesn't need to be immediately either.
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We could have a whole senior line!
They could be like Super Heroes! We could call them 'The Pensioners.'
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If they don't turn to Stockton I'd suggest claiming DiDomenico off waivers.

He's .5PPG (3 and 3) in the 12 games he played in Ottawa and got PP time. He was getting 10ish minutes a game, could play in the bottom 6 and take a Versteeg-like role on a PP unit or at least be tried there to see. At about 600k for the year he would be affordable and I believe he has played all forward roles in the past.
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The fact is Versteeg is a vet, and guys like Klimchuk and Mangiapane are competing for his job. Mangiapane especially is playing well in the A, so he 100% deserves a first look.

Now that Versteeg is injured, Mangiapane should be recalled and given the opportunity to stick around. If he's not performing to NHL standards though, and there is no one else competing for that job, then what do you do? It's good to have a vet under contract who you know can play NHL minutes fill in the gap until the AHLer out performs him.
There are multiple players that are competing for that job right now. So far Hathaway earned getting the first look and Flames Management and Coaches know he can contribute in a 4th line role in the NHL. If his play falls off and Versteeg ends up on LTIR till the end of the season, Mangiapane has earned the chance for a look in the NHL, then its Klimchuk and Hrivik.


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I'm not convinced Mangiapane's skills will translate to the NHL.
You may not be convinced, but I know there are a lot of people that feel he has the opportunity provide a similar play style as 5'9" Brendan Gallagher. But we won't know until he has been given the chance that many people believe he has earned.
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Shouldn't we make prospects take a job from a vet instead of gifting the job to the prospect?
Good luck signing guys like Gaudreau out of college.

Doesn't look like an attractive place to go play if you have prospects that you don't call up in injury situations and you'd rather bring in a 40 year old who isn't on the roster, doesn't have a contract and hasn't played NHL hockey for the last 7 months. Sounds like a great strategy.
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Good luck signing guys like Gaudreau out of college.

Doesn't look like an attractive place to go play if you have prospects that you don't call up in injury situations and you'd rather bring in a 40 year old who isn't on the roster, doesn't have a contract and hasn't played NHL hockey for the last 7 months. Sounds like a great strategy.
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Spencer Foo please say hi.
nothing of a purely hypothetical signing of Iginla in the middle of the season relates to Foo signing with the Flames in June.
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nothing of a purely hypothetical signing of Iginla in the middle of the season relates to Foo signing with the Flames in June.

You honestly think Brad should not be looking elsewhere, and trust an undersized, late round pick player who has never played in the NHL to become a regular NHLer overnight?

Mangiapane should get every opportunity to prove himself at the NHL level. But the Flames shouldn't count on it, and they should be looking to fill the hole with someone more reliable in case he doesn't stick. Be that Iggy, a waiver wire pickup, or a trade.
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You honestly think Brad should not be looking elsewhere, and trust an undersized, late round pick player who has never played in the NHL to become a regular NHLer overnight?

Mangiapane should get every opportunity to prove himself at the NHL level. But the Flames shouldn't count on it, and they should be looking to fill the hole with someone more reliable in case he doesn't stick. Be that Iggy, a waiver wire pickup, or a trade.
I think the Flames have spent a ####load of assets over the last couple of years to bring in help from the outside. Picks, prospects and salary cap have been given up to bring in a number of players, and that's absolutely fine. But yeah, I think at some point you also have to look at help that comes internally.

Versteeg has played on the fourth line lately, and I do think a guy like Hathaway can fill this role. You also have to cover for Jagr because his mileage will result in day-to-day injuries, and that's where guys like Mangiapane deserve a shot IMO. Versteegs PP minutes can be given to other guys, especially Stone.
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:09 PM   #59
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The worst part about this injury was seeing Brouwer on PP1.
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Looks like not as bad as Millions was making it to be

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