[News] Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr a line today at Flames practice

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Basically it would help if some people remembered that everyone here is just like them (a hockey fan), watching a game involving actual human beings.

I don’t know why some people get so upset over hockey. Does nobody remember what it was like when they were kids? I do (mostly because it wasn’t that long ago). It’s fun talking stats and lineups, but I feel like too often we get buried in the minutiae of the game and some people forget to have fun.

Yep, it's just the new social media age. Pick a side, fight, repeat.

[topfiverecords]

Title of the thread should be renamed: Airing of Grievances

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Okay fine, but you just made an appeal to stop trolling and then immediately after decided you get to be the arbiter of what constitutes trolling and took a shot at many posters by suggesting that anyone who feels this isn't the right coaching staff is being ridiculous and is "extremely uneducated".

Can you seriously not see the absurdity in that? That's a major part of the problem (not to single you out) is that too many fans are looking to have their beliefs reinforced and disingenuously label everything else as trolling and uneducated/stupid posting.

You might have missed it but I very specifically posted that a thread like calgaryblood posted is fine because it’s was posted as a discussion and has some content other than “fire the coach, fire the gm”. His thread is to give heat to BT and he gave reasons so it’s not a troll thread, however the posts like “ GG is terrible” then nothing further is a troll post. I know you know this yet you picked and choose what I said to change the context. If you would have posted the whole sentence instead of leaving out the “posters that cannot backup anything they say and are posting only to start an Argument” it would have properly conveyed my message.

You also assumed I was saying anyone who thought the coaching staff wasn’t right was wrong yet absolutely nowhere did I say that. Again you picked and choose which changed the context. I said the posts were ridiculous and uneducated because they are as simple as “gg is a terrible coach” and that is all the poster decides to add to the conversation. That type of post leads me to believe that the poster is uneducated because he is unable to give a reason to his opinion because he is not well enough versed on the topic. Does anyone seriously have a conversation with a friend, family member or coworker and just say “no that’s wrong or this is my opinion” and the other party just responds with “ok” and no further discussion is had? Normally someone says “no that won’t work because........ and explains why there opinion or direction is valid. To me that’s what separates a troll post from a constructive post.

I’m not trying to start a fight here and I’m sorry if this came across like I’m attacking you it’s not my intention. I just want to be sure that I properly explain myself to prevent what I post to be taken out of context.

Edit: I could have been more clear in my original post so I can see where some of the confusion could come from.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Basically it would help if some people remembered that everyone here is just like them (a hockey fan), watching a game involving actual human beings.

I don’t know why some people get so upset over hockey. Does nobody remember what it was like when they were kids? I do (mostly because it wasn’t that long ago). It’s fun talking stats and lineups, but I feel like too often we get buried in the minutiae of the game and some people forget to have fun.

Completely agreed, and I think that same overly critical mentality has made it's way into everyone's online persona. I would be willing to bet it's also changed people's actual lives too.

I don't want to sound like an old man yelling at clouds (I'm not old at all) but it really seems most topics are taken way out of context and then hyperbolized to the point a reasonable discussion can't be had. It feels like that change has only happened recently.

I won't derail this thread anymore but I hope the flames find a way to keep Janko up and actually utilize him.

[GeoRock]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

What I would like to see:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Jagr
anyone - Backlund - Frolik

This or any combination with Bennett on the top two lines would be worth pursuing for a while I think. We know Bennett can play, and the guy needs some points to loosen up. If he could get some quality time on either of the top two lines, on the wing, we might see the guy we all loved when he came up a few years ago. He needs to find his confidence again, and maybe some quality feeds from Mony could be it. Unfortunately, I think that even if GG tried this, he would only give him a few shifts and then send him back down to the bottom six.

After watching him play the last few games, it seems to me Bennett has no confidence in his linemates. A play that sticks out to me was against the Blues the other night. He had a great 2 on 2 with Lazar, and even when Lazar opened up, he did everything he could not to dish it off to him, including trying to break through the D himself and eventually losing the puck.

At the end of the day I want to see some line juggles. We have all the pieces, GG needs to find a better way to put them together.

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[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

What I would like to see:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Jagr
anyone - Backlund - Frolik

Mangiapane looks like a good fit there

[DazzlinDino]

Would be nice to see more regulars making sure every one is feeling welcome. Too often its the same group/s of people patting each other on the back. If a long time member sees someone especially a newbie being piled maybe collectively speak up.

Problem with a lot of trolls is we keep feeding them. Sometimes people do disorderly things to gain attention and because works they keep it up.


Bennett, Jankowski needs someone on that line that can help those two have some chemistry.

[Freeway]

Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr is a line I would like to see in a game at some point in the future.

[bubbsy]

I would like to see the following until jagr is back

Gaudreau - Monahan - tkatchuk
Bennett - Backlund - Frolik
Versteeg - Jankowski - Ferland
Glass - Lazar - Brouwer

[gunnner]

Id like to see next year:

Gaudreau - Monahan - tkatchuk
Bennett - Backlund - Frolik
Magniapane - Jankowski - Ferland
Hathaway-Dube-Lazar

That line up would have energy every night.... on every line.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Ferland - Jankowski - Jagr
Versteeg - Stajan - Lazar

Glass and Brouwer have no place on this team.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Ferland - Jankowski - Jagr
Versteeg - Stajan - Lazar

Glass and Brouwer have no place on this team.

By recent play, I would suggest Brouwer has more of a place on this team than Versteeg.

Versteeg has shown zero compete for loose pucks, zero creativity, plays have died his stick on almost every shift and he has not been passionate or determined enough to backcheck to attempt to regain control from a turnover.

I have enjoyed Versteeg's time as a Flame, I also wondered why he couldn't hold an NHL job for the longest time as he has boat loads of skill, but I am starting to see the Versteeg of old, not the Versteeg who was trying to find his way back to the NHL and willing to do whatever it took to get out of Edmonton.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I suspect he's better at what he does than what ever it is that you do.

Would you care to take bets on who is more likely to lose their job first: Gulutzan or GranteedEV?

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Place F. Hamilton on waivers and send him down, problem solved.

Time to send him down

[Badgers Nose]

The players that would have to clear waivers, absolutely would. So what’s the big deal? Send Freddy down, or Glass. Brouwers ntc still allows the Flames to send him down, right?

[Strange Brew]

Yeah the Flames seem to be going to great lengths to avoid exposing F. Hamilton and Glass to waivers. It is hard to understand.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah the Flames seem to be going to great lengths to avoid exposing F. Hamilton and Glass to waivers. It is hard to understand.

The Hamilton thing is easier to understand. It seems pretty clear at this point this was an unwritten part of Dougie's contract. And tbh I don't mind that much, Freddie doesn't play that much, isn't totally out of place when he does, and some things are more important than money. Every year, every team has someone's pet (usually the coach's -- Steve Begin) inexplicably playing. Freddie will be gone soon enough, and Dougie will remember we went as far as we could in allowing him to play with his brother.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

By recent play, I would suggest Brouwer has more of a place on this team than Versteeg.

Versteeg has shown zero compete for loose pucks, zero creativity, plays have died his stick on almost every shift and he has not been passionate or determined enough to backcheck to attempt to regain control from a turnover.

I have enjoyed Versteeg's time as a Flame, I also wondered why he couldn't hold an NHL job for the longest time as he has boat loads of skill, but I am starting to see the Versteeg of old, not the Versteeg who was trying to find his way back to the NHL and willing to do whatever it took to get out of Edmonton.

This. 100% this. Since game 4 of the season, Versteeg has been one of our worst 5-on-5 players.

[Split98]

Honestly everyone, this site needs to chill.

I've stopped reading every post in GTs and can't believe the apocalypse everyone is talking about when I check the PGT. I come in expecting to hear 'shoulda had that one' type comments and instead am met with 'fire everyone' and 'trade Bennett' hysteria in every single thread.

It's exhausting, and way over the top. There have certainly been a few games that weren't great, but we didn't come into this season billed as SC locks. We'll have stumbles, we're early in the season and we have a lot of great things happening.

Smith has been great
We have freakin' Jagr on this team
Bennett showed us flashes of brilliance in preseason that we should be excited about
Jankowski is on the team
3M looks good again
Monahan has shown he wants #1
Gaudreau's lower body is impressively powerful
Hamonic has been the stable guy we needed to activate Brodie

It's been a fun year so far, but a lot of you seem to be hunting for negative. Let the team click, and we can compete with the best in the league. How any of you watched that Nashville game and weren't excited for what we have here is puzzling.

Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr is exactly the line some of us dreamed of. Yet we have 2 pages of ####ting on it.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Wow, grade A example of cherry picking. Clearly GG has done nothing right. He's just a moron surrounded by other morons who hired him.

GG is a head coach in the best league in the world. There are only 31 of them. I suspect he's better at what he does than what ever it is that you do.

Lighten up a smidge. My post was a jab at your "forgetting" comment. I don't recall saying GG is a moron, even when he was driving me nutty in the playoffs last year. I don't even think he's a bottom third coach. I do think that he's the wrong coach for this roster for a plethora of reasons. I don't need to be Scotty Bowman to point out frustrating red flags.

We can only imagine the list of criticisms a person could come up with watching you do your job:
-why did he pick up the garbage can like that?
-why did he throw the garbage on the street and not in the truck?

It was Compost Week, not Garbage Week, and I was making a statement.

-why is he eating the garbage?

Out of respect for all the malnourished human beings in third world countries who don't have the luxury of throwing away perfectly edible Hot Rods. And it was still in the wrapper.

Your examples are silly and petty. To think that he and his staff haven't thought about everything you list & much more is just ignorant.

I humbly apologize for not wanting what you describe as an Alzheimer's patient as the head coach of a hockey team I cheer for and spend money on.