[Rumour] Flames have interest in Sharp UPD: multiple reports deal done with CHI

[JerryUnderscore]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

The inherent problem with signing an older vet is the rookie has to be substantially better to take the vets job. If each player are very close in terms of performance the vet will always get the benefit of the doubt, for better or worse. Grossman should not have made the opening day roster over Jokipakka last year. Setoguchi should not have gotten as many games as he did a few years ago. If we sign Sharp and Jankowski out performs him in training camp by just a slight margin, the smart money would be on Sharp still in the NHL and Jankowski in the AHL.

That's only a problem if you think Jankowski's development would flatline with another year in the AHL. And besides, the NHL is not a developmental league. If Jankowski can't out right steal a job from a vet then I have no problem letting him get more experience (and more ice-time) down in the AHL.

Edmonton rushed all their prospects to the NHL while Detroit has historically allowed theirs to over-rippen in the AHL. Given the two options I'll go with the Detroit model.

[dino7c]

Flames have plenty of young forwards in the lineup...sometimes I wonder about CP

[flame^thrower]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Cause if there's one thing we know, it's the Flames don't give young players a chance to step into the top nine / six if they show they deserve it.

NSFW!

I love this kid, can't wait to see the team this coming season!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames have plenty of young forwards in the lineup...sometimes I wonder about CP

Yup. Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Bennett, Ferland with 10/13 forward spots taken. Signing a vet takes up one spot, then you've got two spots open for competition (Lazar, Jankowski, Foo, etc). 7/13 spots for younger players is hardly terrible. In all likelihood, Stajan ends up traded or spending most nights in the press box by the trade deadline.

Add in the two young guys that will likely make up the 6/7 D spots and I don't see how young players are being stifled by this situation.

[MarkGio]

It's not even about young players in the line-up, it's that Patrick Sharp ####ing sucks. The guy scored 3 more goals than Matt Stajan last year!!

Hell at this point I'd rather Chiasson.

If we're talking about Kovalchuk or Marleau or an actually top 6 NHL winger, then yes, Jankowski can go back to the NHL. But we're not.... We're talking about a guy on a "sharp" decline at 35 years old who can no longer produce.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Yeah! Now if only we had that top 9 winger kid to fill the hole....

What about Nieuwendyk to Dallas for that Iginla kid. Stars would need to add I guess.

NM. God darn time machine is on the fritz again.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

The inherent problem with signing an older vet is the rookie has to be substantially better to take the vets job. If each player are very close in terms of performance the vet will always get the benefit of the doubt, for better or worse. Grossman should not have made the opening day roster over Jokipakka last year. Setoguchi should not have gotten as many games as he did a few years ago. If we sign Sharp and Jankowski out performs him in training camp by just a slight margin, the smart money would be on Sharp still in the NHL and Jankowski in the AHL.

I think this is generally true.

The one big exception, in my opinion, would be in the case of injuries.
If a young player does a great job replacing an injured vet, that tends to earn the trust of a coach. This basically what happened with the Dallas Cowboys this past year.

Also, Jankowski is a centre and would not directly compete with Sharp. I don't think the Flames would mind benching Stajan or Brouwer in place of the younger players. At least after a while.

[St. Pats]

[QUOTE=MarkGio;6312282]It's not even about young players in the line-up, it's that Patrick Sharp ####ing sucks. The guy scored 3 more goals than Matt Stajan last year!!

Hell at this point I'd rather Chiasson.

If we're talking about Kovalchuk or Marleau or an actually top 6 NHL winger, then yes, Jankowski can go back to the NHL. But we're not.... We're talking about a guy on a sharp decline at 35 years old who can no longer produce.[/QUOTE

Yep Tre signs him tomorrow and he gets roasted despite a very good offseason so far. Makes no sense.

[hockey.modern]

Take it for what it's worth, as per Reddit, Patrick Sharp followed AGM Brad Pascall and Roger Millions lol

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Take it for what it's worth, as per Reddit, Patrick Sharp followed AGM Brad Pascall and Roger Millions lol

Is there a way to see how recently he followed them? lol.

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Is there a way to see how recently he followed them? lol.

Not sure, another source is saying he signed with the Hawks apparently.

Jay Zawaski @JayZawaski670

Source confirms the Blackhawks will indeed sign Patrick Sharp. Told it's a "big discount." Look for it to be under $1 million.

[OILFAN #81]

1m would be good for Sharp

[Love]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

It's not even about young players in the line-up, it's that Patrick Sharp ####ing sucks. The guy scored 3 more goals than Matt Stajan last year!!

Hell at this point I'd rather Chiasson.

If we're talking about Kovalchuk or Marleau or an actually top 6 NHL winger, then yes, Jankowski can go back to the NHL. But we're not.... We're talking about a guy on a "sharp" decline at 35 years old who can no longer produce.

He was playing through an injury that he needed surgery for. Does Hamonic suck too? He had a really bad year last year also playing hurt

Patrick Sharp has been playing through an injury for a while.
He is expected to meet with doctors after Tuesday's game. It's unclear if this will keep him out of the lineup, but it could hurt his trade value going into Wednesday's deadline.
Source: Elliotte Friedman on Twitter Feb 28 - 4:58 PM

Patrick Sharp will undergo hip surgery on Tuesday.
Sharp has eight goals and 18 points in 48 games this season. The surgery will end Sharp's season, or at least keep him out for what little remains. This has been a very difficult season for Sharp, who had suffered two concussions and has played through his hip issue. On top of that, his father is battling leukemia. "It's been tough," Sharp said. "I knew it was going to be a challenging year with my father and what he has been going through. Looking back on the season, I probably could have handled my emotions a little better maybe."
Source: NHL.com Mar 25 - 5:25 PM

[Da_Chief]

That's fine. Only one i really want is Jagr. If not lets roll with what they have.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Not sure, another source is saying he signed with the Hawks apparently.

Jay Zawaski @JayZawaski670

Source confirms the Blackhawks will indeed sign Patrick Sharp. Told it's a "big discount." Look for it to be under $1 million.

Well..

Shane Doan come on down.

[Beninho]

Please for the love of god give Janko a spot this year, Doan is soooo useless and Sharp is boardering on useless.

[Southside]

Williams it is then.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Please for the love of god give Janko a spot this year, Doan is soooo useless and Sharp is boardering on useless.

I think more panic and hair rending is necessary.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Well..

Shane Doan come on down.

Wtf? Totally contradicts his earlier tweet saying that he was assured by mgmt that Sharp would not be returning.

These journalists, I tell you. Gotta stop with these definitive statements when they don't actually know for sure.

It's also a little sad that Chicago keeps reuniting their previous cup teams, at the sacrifice of up and coming players like Panarin. Reeks of desperation to cling to the last crack of light in their window.

[Swayze11]

FWIW Patrick Sharp's brother lives in Calgary.