07-01-2016, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
They are not comparable in any way shape or form.
You don't compare 10 year veteran UFA's to 2-3 year RFA's when it comes to contract negotiations.
They might get a little more, but it won't be because of what Brouwer just got.
Monahan's best recent comparable is Barkov ($5.9 AAV)
Gaudreau's best recent comparable is Tarasenko ($7.5 AAV)
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I'm just looking at it strictly from a negotiating standpoint. The Blues and the Panthers signings fit their cap structure.
I would have preferred Treliving had Monahan and Gaudreau's cap/salary covered before the Brouwer move, that's all.
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07-01-2016, 01:29 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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From a negotiating standpoint, you don't compare 10 year veteran UFAs to RFAs coming off their ELCs. No arbitrator would accept them as comparables, no GM would accept them as comparables. They're apples and oranges.
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07-01-2016, 01:34 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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I'd like the Flames to take a run at Hudler on a 1 year deal. They still need a skill RW, otherwise it'll be a black hole on that side.
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07-01-2016, 01:36 PM
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#44
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I believe in the Pony Power
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The only running the Flames should do with Hudler is in the opposite direction
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07-01-2016, 01:39 PM
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#45
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
I'd like the Flames to take a run at Hudler on a 1 year deal. They still need a skill RW, otherwise it'll be a black hole on that side.
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Due to bad contracts we are probably going with Chiasson/Pribyl/Poirier or shifting a LW to RW for the season, I guess see what we have and if anyone steps up. Hoping we can land a true 1st line RW next year at the draft from someone thats got cap issues or a good hockey trade.
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07-01-2016, 01:40 PM
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#46
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First round-bust
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The Flames need another RW. Hudler or Boedker or David Jones!
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07-01-2016, 01:43 PM
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#47
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
The Flames need another RW. Hudler or Boedker or David Jones!
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I dunno I kind of like having Hathaway getting a chance to stick on that 4th line. I just don't think we can afford any of the remaining RW without a change in how we expect the Johnny/Mony deals to go. Also I'd rather save any money we have to resign NakCity!
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07-01-2016, 01:44 PM
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#48
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
The Flames need another RW. Hudler or Boedker or David Jones!
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Why?
Brouwer, Frolik, Chiasson, Hathaway. Outside chance Tkachuk plays there. Looks like we're pretty set at RW
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07-01-2016, 01:45 PM
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#49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
The only running the Flames should do with Hudler is in the opposite direction
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07-01-2016, 01:48 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Dion
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Why can't I have more thanks to give to this, Kramer always wins! 
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07-01-2016, 01:55 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Why?
Brouwer, Frolik, Chiasson, Hathaway. Outside chance Tkachuk plays there. Looks like we're pretty set at RW
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That is a very underwhelming group offensively.
Two 2nd/3rd line guys, and two 4th liners.
Shoehorning Tkachuk onto the first line would be a little nuts considering he's 18.
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07-01-2016, 01:58 PM
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#52
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
That is a very underwhelming group offensively.
Two 2nd/3rd line guys, and two 4th liners.
Shoehorning Tkachuk onto the first line would be a little nuts considering he's 18.
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Good complimentary powerforward types. The skill will come more from the left side with Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Shinkaruk, etc
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07-01-2016, 02:02 PM
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#53
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Self-Retired
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Good complimentary powerforward types. The skill will come more from the left side with Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Shinkaruk, etc
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And Defense. With Brouwer and Chiason going to the net, creating traffic, the Flames will get tons of points from the back end again, as well as the usual suspects.
I also see Brouwer having a career year.
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07-01-2016, 02:05 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Good complimentary powerforward types. The skill will come more from the left side with Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Shinkaruk, etc
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True, it just is underwhelming overall.
The bottom 3 lines of forwards are very good assuming Frolik/Brouwer/Chaisson are on those lines. Add that to the defense and goaltending, and that's building towards being a consistent playoff team.
That lack of a 1st line RW though is just frustrating. That's why I wouldn't mind anyone that has a reasonable amount of skill for that spot like a Hudler type. Cheaper options would be better obviously and I don't see Hudler making more than 3 million.
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07-01-2016, 02:11 PM
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First Line Centre
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Brouwer is not a true #1 RW, but for this team, what is needed is a veteran player, big body that will get in on the forecheck, and score goals. You then have competition, with Chiasson being a younger version of Brouwer, so hopefully they can push each other.
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07-01-2016, 02:22 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Anyone have a non SN link to the presser?
nm, I see it's up on the Flames site. https://www.nhl.com/flames/video/liv...092/c-40471703
EDIT: Try the updated link
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07-01-2016, 02:27 PM
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#57
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God of Hating Twitter
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wtf I load up the link and it shows some random 2nd period action between Chicago and Buffalo.
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07-01-2016, 02:32 PM
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#58
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Lifetime Suspension
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Really hope someone asks Brad, if this is a playoff team and if there are more signings and trades to come?
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07-01-2016, 02:35 PM
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#59
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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Still not started...Brad working on something?
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07-01-2016, 02:37 PM
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#60
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Self-Retired
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I hope he's announcing the re-signing of Monny and JG..
I'm terrified someone is gonna offer sheet one of them.
Why are they not signed yet?
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